Why is it that bp are constantly compared to 4th gen ggs, I usually don't see it with other 3rd gen ggs getting compared to 4th gen ones.
Because they are the most spoken about and famous 3rd Gen girl group globally, so all these salty folks want to talk about how their groups are either the next BP or better.
Its really sad, actually. And it does the relevant rookies no favors either.
Kpop fans are really a trip, aren't they?
I don't think the fandoms in any other music genre spend so much time discussing corporate actions, and the companies behind the music as Kpop fans. In fact, the idea of a "company stan" is non-existent as far as I know in most genres of music, because the notion you might stan some corporate brand as opposed to a specific artist is just silly.
And yet, you still get Kpop fans making threads like this? The point of a corporation is to make money for its owners, be it a set of private individuals if privately held, or the shareholders if publicly traded. That is what these entities exist to do, and their main actions are based around maximizing profits. So of course they want to break their artists into other, profitable music markets if possible. Not to try to do so would be absurd, if possible.
Foreigners are in kpop for businesses purposes period. Everyone knows this.
Yes, and if you are very talented in China, you will make far more money sticking in the domestic market than you will likely make going to South Korea. That certainly speaks to who from China might end up trying for a spot in the South Korean industry.
You mean like this?
What does a baseless and lazy "wumao" claim have to do with your claim?
Feel free to provide any evidence, whatsoever, for your 'travel ban' statement. I don't expect you to actually do it, as there isn't any, but hey, benefit of the doubt.
Xi Jinping will make the decision for them, soon enough. I expect in the near future Chinese citizens will no longer be allowed to travel outside the country without special government permission, which will not likely be granted to young entertainers without a large international following.
Don't you just love the internet, where people can make up claims without even the slightest bit of evidence and act as if they are a thing?
Ah, the normal crop of sinophobes....
Also, the so called "outrage" about the Olympic opening ceremony is classic insane nationalistic claptrap
South Koreans - Hanbok is our national dress and part of our heritage!
Ethnic Koreans who live in China - okay, that is what we will wear as our national dress in a parade of different Ethnic groups who live in China .
South Koreans- HOW DARE THEY! China trying to steal our culture!!!
Funny enough, there were Kazakhs, Mongols, Kyrgyz, and Tajiks in their national costumes, but I don't hear any outrage there.
I think you are definitely correct on how the beginning of the fandom might have stained their reputation and whatnot, but do you think that Kep1er's company is actually using their victim mentality to milk them? Its a bit of an odd theory, but could be plausible
Not sure what benefit the company gets from "milking" a disgruntled single member fandom - I mean, if we attribute a significant portion of the large physical sales to the Bahiyyih fans, if they are going to keep thinking she won't get any lines, that threatens physical sales in the future.
I think one of the issues is that Bahiyyih's fandom predates GP999, like Yujin's does, but while Yujin got a lot of screen time in GP999 and was always in the top 9, Bahiyyih's fans got her into the finale and the group by themselves, cause she had so little time in GP999 that there is no way to credibly say she had built up a fandom on the show.
So that fandom came into things already strained from the rest of the fandom, and then the fact in the debut song she got few lines just fed into their mentality that its them vs. everyone else. The existence of strong-anti Bahiyyih haters out there creates some justification, but not enough to support the overall behavior.
The whole episode was really fun, and all the members have comedic potential.
Kep1er, the only GG where the Maknae is also the Sunbae of the group.
Xiaoting all the way.
Its a Chinese company, so as long as the money flows, not sure the company will care about nationality.
MVSk is certainly the superior song and performance by the group.
The demographic info on the posts says quite a lot about how to view this "hate" - and it is also campaign season in South Korea, so that probably has something to do with it.
If the point of a center is to draw attention, then Xiaoting is it.
Money is catchier and has broader appeal.
Can people stop conflating talent with skill, or acting as if either is key to success?
Talent refers to an innate, born with ability. Period. A talent is a lucky genetic accident that makes certain people have better signing abilities, or dancing abilities, or the ability to play some particular instrument than the common, average person.
Skill is a measure of proficiency, of how well someone can complete a task. Skill comes from practice and repetition, from hours invested in hard work. Any person can gain skill if they invest the time.
There are a lot of talented people and there are a lot of skilled people, and then there are those who are both talented and skilled.
Generally, to be able to succeed in a field, you need one or the other, and its best to have both, but having either is no key to success. There are plenty of opera folks or music theater people who can sing circles around anyone in popular music - that in an of itself won't make them stars.
I will note that the different relationship between artists and their labels in the US as opposed to South Korea might very well be part of why people in the West denigrate Kpop. No one in the US gives a crap which label their favorite artist is with. The very notion of a company Stan in US pop music is absurd, and yet, Kpop strongly revolves around Companies. That makes Kpop seem a lot more, well, openly and obviously a business. The idea of people on a US pop forum going on about the share price of the different labels and how a specific artist might affect that? Unheard of, and honestly, think about it - arguing how well your group does in terms of Corporate ROI does make it seem like the music is perhaps not what truly matters.
