Will the members of NewJeans ever release another true top hit?

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    It is all but officially confirmed that NewJeans will opt for contract termination. Now I do not know all the details, such as if they will still operate as Newjeans during whatever legal battle ensues, so that's why the question is will the members ever release another top hit song. Whether that be under Newjeans or a new name. I think any group can produce a top hit regardless of age, popularity, etc. Good music is good music. But this is a pretty complicated situation, so it's more like do you think it's likely or unlikely.

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    Of course they will.


    NewJeans could release a song of them eating kimchi and gimbap and still easily have a top 5 hit. They are the most popular idols in Korea today, so their getting another hit, especially once they re-debut under MHJ's new label, is guaranteed.

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    A true global hit like OMG/Super Shy? Not going to happen.

    Lmao


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    Don't count on it.


    That's the biggest streamer in the literal world, vibing to NewJeans music after the biggest Asian streamer on Twitch's platform streamed ETA after he secured that very honor for the first time. NewJeans will never be irrelevant globally.

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    Quote from thebadguy

    Will the members of babymonster ever release a true top hit? Maybe even a low level hit ?

    It's a legitimate question, I'm not known as the biggest NJs hater on this forum so I'm allowed to ask these things.

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    Of course they will.


    NewJeans could release a song of them eating kimchi and gimbap and still easily have a top 5 hit. They are the most popular idols in Korea today, so their getting another hit, especially once they re-debut under MHJ's new label, is guaranteed.

    Lol I do respect your optimism. You are right, they are the most popular idols in Korea TODAY. But, I do not think they are any less susceptible to limiting factors than any other girl group. By that I mostly just mean people moving on and losing interest over time. And I definitely don't think it's guaranteed, but I do think it's likely. Though starvation works pretty well for BP....


    Also this situation has only made them lose followers afaik, so that probably doesn't help either. You can say what you will about reddit but it's still one of the largest social media platforms and there's a lot of negative sentiment towards NJs now. That was not the case before.

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    But, I do not think they are any less susceptible to limiting factors than any other girl group.

    They are. People need to stop treating NewJeans like your average girl group.


    I'm not just being cocky when I see they're different from the others; they actually are.


    There is a title track from every NewJeans era since their debut two years ago charting in the MelOn top 100.


    They released 4 songs, 2 of them being Japanese releases, and still are the top digital artist by a mile.


    Even while they're not actively promoting, their faces, content and brands are all over Korea.


    I'm not trying to be rude, but this is a really silly question.

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    Also this situation has only made them lose followers afaik

    Incorrect. They've gained. All their songs went UP the Korean charts when the dispute was at its peak.

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    You can say what you will about reddit but it's still one of the largest social media platforms and there's a lot of negative sentiment towards NJs now. That was not the case before.

    Also incorrect. There has ALWAYS been negative sentiment towards NewJeans on Reddit. They just have an easy excuse to stop pretending and hiding their blatant hatred for the group. Long before the audit was announced, NewJeans praise posts were often downvoted on reddit, and Tokkis have always despised that community.


    reddit is such an insignificant, deluded and tiny slide of the K-Pop community, that I can't believe you'd even use it to make any kind of point about NewJeans' popularity.

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    I asked if they will have a true top hit. You defined this as top 5 yearly I believe? So I have no doubt their next release will chart in the top 100, and likely even the top 10. But will is be a top 5 hit of the year? Dunno. You can think it's a silly question, I didn't ask it for your opinion, because I know what it is and it's in line with mine. I asked the question because I like to see what those who might think differently will say. In that sense it may be silly, because I'm not sure anyone will say it's unlikely.

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    Incorrect. They've gained. All their songs went UP the Korean charts when the dispute was at its peak.

    They have lost fans, that is a fact. Many people have stopped stanning them, is that numbers larger than the number of people who have begun supporting them? Idk. Probably not, but who knows.

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    reddit is such an insignificant, deluded and tiny slide of the K-Pop community, that I can't believe you'd even use it to make any kind of point about NewJeans' popularity.

    I probably use reddit A LOT more than you, so I don't agree. AKP is an insignificant and tiny slide of the k-pop community, r/kpop subreddit alone is multiple magnitudes larger than AKP and one of the largest international kpop communities. Does the sentiment say anything about NJs popularity domestically? No. Internationally? Yes


    I could be wrong about reddit not hating them before this though, but I generally only ever saw good things on r/kpop. Now BLACKPINK? they HATE them.

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    But will is be a top 5 hit of the year?

    Of course it will. This is NewJeans we're talking about. Timing impacts year-end numbers, but it would be a shocker if they didn't have a massive hit. The entire industry and Korean public is behind them more than ever before.

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    They have lost fans, that is a fact.

    They have gained many fans too. A LOT of Korean Tokkis confirmed they became NewJeans fans BECAUSE of the dispute with HYBE, and on the international side, you already know the story of ETA and how it went viral for a second time after they gained a ton of fans through Twitch streamers. That is more of a fact than anything else. They're about to wrap up the year as the most streamed girl group on Spotify for the first time in their careers. They'll be fine.


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    I probably use reddit A LOT more than you, so I don't agree. AKP is an insignificant and tiny slide of the k-pop community, r/kpop subreddit alone is multiple magnitudes larger than AKP and one of the largest international kpop communities. Does the sentiment say anything about NJs popularity domestically? No. Internationally? Yes

    You do not. I've been on K-Pop subreddits for years, and I've accessed it daily for months now. I never said AKP had any major significance either, but neither does reddit. I'm a NewJeans fan, so I would know better than you what the sentiments towards them are on reddit. As I said, they have ALWAYS hated NewJeans. If you were as embedded in the community as you think, you'd know that reddit was the main platform pushing the ignorant "ETA = terrorism concept" agenda. They have ALWAYS been shady at best towards NewJeans and blatantly hated them at times too.


    Bunnies have always hated the K-Pop subreddits for their disdain for all things NewJeans, and that was during 2023, when NewJeans had the most dominant year in girl group history, so no, the K-Pop reddits don't mean shit to me or any fan.

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    Fair enough, I don't heavily stan the group and don't wanna be a hypocrite, so I'll take your word for it. Though I do doubt you use kpop reddit more than I do, it was pretty much the only way I engaged with kpop from 2019-2022. But I did not use it much when Newjeans was debuting and such, only check out the MV discussion threads, which always seemed to be positive, except Cookie lol. This is opposed to BP, whose MV threads are just them getting shit on.


    Not arguing you or anything, just questioning to coax out some good info.

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    Depends if you mean a hit as a good song or a hit like selling good.

    I depend if they stay with Hybe or where they end up. The girls themself is nothing special, but they are of cource establishd and well known so their first song will probaly doing well just because it from them.


    Other than that it depends on who they work with, they need good people do make their songs and produce it etc.

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    Fair enough, I don't heavily stan the group and don't wanna be a hypocrite, so I'll take your word for it. Though I do doubt you use kpop reddit more than I do, it was pretty much the only way I engaged with kpop from 2019-2022. But I did not use it much when Newjeans was debuting and such, only check out the MV discussion threads, which always seemed to be positive, except Cookie lol. This is opposed to BP, whose MV threads are just them getting shit on.


    Not arguing you or anything, just questioning to coax out some good info.

    You can take my word for it. The only safe space on Reddit for Bunnies has always been the NewJeans subreddit. The other subreddits have always had a notorious reputation in our fandom for being the low-key nastiest community towards all things NewJeans. Even after it was proven ETA *gasp* meant Estimated Time of Arrival, they would still argue with me and downvote me for calling it the dumbest forced controversy in recent memory.


    You could make a "I love NewJeans" post on Reddit and get downvoted to oblivion. When I made my threads there about their 2023 and New Jeans becoming the most streamed girl group album ever, both hit threads, my inbox was flooded with Bunnies thanking me for posting something positive in that toxic echo chamber.


    So I've always hated most of the K-Pop subreddits. And they WILL gaslight you if you call them out. That's why I ended up banned.


    But to answer your question directly, to me, it's like asking if BTS will ever sell a lot of albums again, because they lost a lot of Korean fans over Suga's DUI. Of course they will.

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    What if they leave the company, redebut with a new name, and then they go the same way as Twice.

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    Quote from Yama-Chan

    The only safe space on Reddit for Bunnies has always been the NewJeans subreddit.

    This is actually the one thing I like about k-pop reddit, the subreddits for individual groups. They are really the only safe spot I know of to discuss your faves. And at least in the BP one, people don't get upset over legitimate criticism (well, not always).


    It's unfortunate because reddit does have a large userbase, but asking this question there would basically just be inviting a NJs hate thread. Which believe it or not I'm not trying to do. Though I'm not sure if the chances are much better here.

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    Even after it was proven ETA *gasp* meant Estimated Time of Arrival, they would still argue with me and downvote me for calling it the dumbest forced controversy in recent memory.

    I didn't know this happened and I'm actually lol'ing at how ridiculous that is, I can't even believe that it gained any traction.

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    But to answer your question directly, to me, it's like asking if BTS will ever sell a lot of albums again, because they lost a lot of Korean fans over Suga's DUI. Of course they will.

    Idk I thought it maybe had potential to be interesting but seeing how the only unsupportive reply so far is patrik, maybe not lol.

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    In Korea? No doubt

    Internationally? They'll have to play it very carefully with how they leave UMG and who they sign to next. And stop letting MHJ leech on their image altogether. It's good for her but overall damaging to them


    Their musical output isn't going to change but the fact is they've lost a lot of casual support from deranged company stans, they'll need to bring in new followers from elsewhere and overcome the terrible promotional sense their team has

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    Quote from Tru-Multistan

    Fair enough, I don't heavily stan the group and don't wanna be a hypocrite, so I'll take your word for it. Though I do doubt you use kpop reddit more than I do, it was pretty much the only way I engaged with kpop from 2019-2022. But I did not use it much when Newjeans was debuting and such, only check out the MV discussion threads, which always seemed to be positive, except Cookie lol. This is opposed to BP, whose MV threads are just them getting shit on.


    Not arguing you or anything, just questioning to coax out some good info.

    You should be there when ETA teaser released :pepe-cringe: There were at least 5 threads everyday on every kpop subs, some get 500+ comments accused them as terrorist promoters :pepe-cringe:


    And when Super Shy released, half of the comments despised the song, said that it's gonna be a blop :pepe-cringe:


    When Super Shy eventually surpassed Seven on K-charts and doing super well internationally too, there were 100+ threads about why Newjeans ruined Kpop because Reddit don't like how the song is "too short" or "has no bridge" :pepe-cringe: Thats when I know Newjeans had become another punching bag like BlackPink because reddit kpop can't "control" their popularity anymore :pepe-cringe:

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    I think you should change your question like be specific. Is it a question about kr hit or ww hit? Bc the answers will be more different than they are now.

    In SK yes, ww I doubt it. They lost toooon of support ww and it could be felt in their cbs this year, but never say never I guess...

    Be specific about hit in SK or ww and I'll give my vote.

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    I think you should change your question like be specific. Is it a question about kr hit or ww hit? Bc the answers will be more different than they are now.

    In SK yes, ww I doubt it. They lost toooon of support ww and it could be felt in their cbs this year, but never say never I guess...

    Be specific about hit in SK or ww and I'll give my vote.

    my bad thought it was implied but im dumb, SK.

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    This was embarrassing to read lol.

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    You literally just said international streams depend on going viral.


    What do you think happens when the biggest streamers in the world all start playing NewJeans songs on stream?


    Do you even know who Kai Cenat is?

    But that’s luck not based on brand value.


    Can new jeans get “lucky” sure maybe they’ll have their 50-50 moment with a viral song.


    But for me that’s not really a big deal or something that speaks about them or their popularity in specific


    If that was the question any group can have a viral hit but that’s not really interesting success.


    Will new jeans be able to consistently get the streams they got under HYBE just based on their own popularity? Just by releasing good songs and not really relying on “luck” and “going viral”


    The answer is no.


    Their average streams will go down and they will have less visibility on international streaming platforms.

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    This was embarrassing to read.


    Everything you just said is complete conjecture, so stop trying to present it as fact.

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    If they also sign with warner or another top american agency which would accept their terms (total independance or almost), i actually think they could do even better than super shy. Because they be actually getting proper promo on the levels of top american artists. (not talking about sabrina mass payola level of course)


    Also this way, with an american company backing them up, i don’t think hybe or scooter will be able to blacklist them or sabotage them on spots for example or even the american market :pepe-tea: .

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    If they also sign with warner or another top american agency which would accept their terms (total independance or almost), i actually think they could do even better than super shy. Because they be actually getting proper promo on the levels of top american artists. (not talking about sabrina mass payola of course)


    Also this way, i don’t think hybe or scooter will be able to blacklist them or sabotage them on spots for example :pepe-tea: .

    People don't understand that NewJeans is easily the most successful group in the West, despite making VERY minimal efforts to promote her. Brands and events reached out to ADOR because NewJeans was so insanely popular.


    Imagine if MHJ and her team actually focused on promotion in the West?

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    People don't understand that NewJeans is easily the most successful group in the West, despite making VERY minimal efforts to promote her. Brands and events reached out to ADOR because NewJeans was so insanely popular.


    Imagine if MHJ and her team actually focused on promotion in the West?

    EXACTLY. Hybe didn’t get them ANY gigs, any tv apparences, radio interviews, any f*cking promo, bro they didn't even bother for vma apparence after Super Shy massive success!


    (one could even wonder if they didn't stole opportunities from njs...)


    The only apparence i remember was the new years eve. That's it...


    So with a company backing them up, they could ACTUALLY promote on the american market properly!

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    People won't accept those facts because it doesn't feed into all their payola narratives, even though we now know NewJeans had the least support from HYBE of any girl group that debuted from one of their labels. Hell, HYBE even tried to steal a LV brand deal from ADOR even.


    I keep telling people that NewJeans has not once aggressively promoted in the West.


    When that happens, especially if they still get that Fortnite collaboration, look out.

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    Figured I'd get an answer from our guest of the day, ChatGPT:


    The situation surrounding NewJeans and HYBE is indeed intricate and multifaceted. The potential termination of their contract could pose significant obstacles for the group as they navigate the music industry independently. If they do go through with the termination, it's crucial to consider that they might lose rights to their established brand, including the group name, catalog, and any associated content that has garnered popularity. Furthermore, the financial ramifications could be substantial; reports suggest a staggering $400 million contract buyout, which underscores the serious stakes involved in this decision.


    With these factors in mind, the path to releasing another hit song might be fraught with challenges. They would need to focus on rebuilding their identity outside of HYBE, securing new partnerships, and potentially rebranding themselves in a way that resonates with fans while staying true to their artistic vision. The uncertainty surrounding their future in the industry means it's difficult to predict whether they will replicate their past success or face hurdles that hinder their ability to release music that resonates widely. Overall, while it's certainly possible for NewJeans to produce another hit song in the future, the circumstances they find themselves in could make this endeavor considerably more complicated.

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    If they also sign with warner or another top american agency which would accept their terms (total independance or almost), i actually think they could do even better than super shy. Because they be actually getting proper promo on the levels of top american artists. (not talking about sabrina mass payola level of course)

    I doubt that would do them any good.


    Most of their fans are Koreans. Out of those Koreans, there are those who believe that international promotion would take the k out of kpop.


    Signing with an American agency might get them proper promo but I do think that they would lose some domestic fans.

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    People won't accept those facts because it doesn't feed into all their payola narratives, even though we now know NewJeans had the least support from HYBE of any girl group that debuted from one of their labels. Hell, HYBE even tried to steal a LV brand deal from ADOR even.


    I keep telling people that NewJeans has not once aggressively promoted in the West.


    When that happens, especially if they still get that Fortnite collaboration, look out.

    All this collabs are mhj's talent and hardwork into making njs and trying to promote them the best she could despite a total lack of support from hybe.


    MHJ is a marketing genius and a visual art director of top quality, her reputation is so high in the industry that NJs actually became the product in demand and not the other way. This is another part of promotion that MHJ was able to make happen on her and njs share talent and popularity.


    I would actually go further than that. They may have not stolen alot of their opportunities for their own groups, because their groups just weren't in demand like NJs, but they probably blocked them from getting deals and properly promoting so that they wouldn’t overshadows groups made by bang!


    Actually they already did that with NJs since their debut, hence why they had to promote themselves in a unusual way through internet or social networks. They very likely did the absolute same with their western promotions!


    So people who are afraid that if NJs leaves, hybe will boycott them or smth, bruh, they are already doing it!! And actually, as a parent company, they have more power to do it!

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