Female idols in their 30s are probably very lonely

Please feel free to send them m‍y way.

wow, that sounds awful. As a young man, I offer myself as tribute to these suffering old idols. Is Jennie 30 yet?

everything sucks and we are all gonna die alone

as a korean american, I don't feel bad for these girlies because most Korean men are toxic af like most men.

you're either single and miserable or stuck with someone you hate and are even more miserable.

Do u genuinely think a woman like irene would ever be alone for no reason other than personal choice? Lol

Lots of Korean women are choosing to not get married because Korean males are seen as too male chauvinistic.

Some idols like Irene may not marry because they don't feel any male will make their lives better, but some other might.

A few of the Hello Venus former members are married, one or two former Rainbow members are married.

Girls Day's Sojin just got married in her late 30's.

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Lots of Korean women are choosing to not get married because Korean males are seen as too male chauvinistic.

Some idols like Irene may not marry because they don't feel any male will make their lives better, but some other might.

A few of the Hello Venus former members are married, one or two former Rainbow members are married.

Girls Day's Sojin just got married in her late 30's.

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True. This is happening all over the world. China, Japan, S Korea etc.

Many videos on YT on this.

counterpoint - it's not an issue with their ages specifically but rather that they are idols???

and we all know the backlash some of them get for just dating

plus it's no secret that a lot of them have "companionships" secretly lol

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counterpoint - it's not an issue with their ages specifically but rather that they are idols???

and we all know the backlash some of them get for just dating

plus it's no secret that a lot of them have "companionships" secretly lol

It will take a long time for Korean fandoms to change their views, sadly.

Yes, including some parts of my fandom.

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It will take a long time for Korean fandoms to change their views, sadly.

Yes, including some parts of my fandom.

I think it's getting better especially with the more older established artists like those from 3rd gen and prior (and who are still active as an idol) that their dating is less seen negatively these days...

the ones I can think of off the top of my head (recently and from my favs) are like

Jihyo and Yun Sung-bin

Chaeyoung and Zion T

Jisoo and Ahn Bo Hyun

and those seemed to have less backlash than say when Karina was suspected of dating

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counterpoint - it's not an issue with their ages specifically but rather that they are idols???

and we all know the backlash some of them get for just dating

plus it's no secret that a lot of them have "companionships" secretly lol

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to insinuate with "companionships," but if something is done secretly then by definition it isn't "no secret." If it were truly "no secret," you'd be able to give a bunch of specific examples instead of a broad insinuation.

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I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to insinuate with "companionships," but if something is done secretly then by definition it isn't "no secret." If it were truly "no secret," you'd be able to give a bunch of specific examples instead of a broad insinuation.

that they have sexual partners but exactly who those sexual partners are are a secret lol

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that they have sexual partners but exactly who those sexual partners are are a secret lol

That would fall under dating...

I mean maybe there are some idols who are the "bring someone you just met back to the dorms for a night" type, but somehow I doubt there's a lot of that.

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That would fall under dating...

it could be dating or could just be casual hookups

I would think it's a lot easier to have casual relationships than date (in terms of trying to hide it from the public)

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it could be dating or could just be casual hookups

I would think it's a lot easier to have casual relationships than date (in terms of trying to hide it from the public)

Depends on your living situation. It wouldn't be more convenient if you're still living with others, and even if you aren't, we know there are paparazzi stationed outside idol's homes, so they still risk getting caught even if they don't actually go on a date somewhere, which has happened several times now. Imagine the consequences of getting caught with multiple people in short succession instead of just one.

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Depends on your living situation. It wouldn't be more convenient if you're still living with others, and even if you aren't, we know there are paparazzi stationed outside idol's homes, so they still risk getting caught even if they don't actually go on a date somewhere, which has happened several times now. Imagine the consequences of getting caught with multiple people in short succession instead of just one.

I think one's group mates would cover for thee if such a thing were to happen but yes I'm sure the paparazzi would be all over it if it turn out they were having multiple dalliances

Isn’t koreas average age to get married is 30s-40s. Usually that’s the time their career are settled, and money saved to start a family.

I am noticing though an increase rate of women getting married in their 30s

Some former idols do get married and have babies

No matter who you are aging can decrease your perceived value in the dating market, but I think the points added by being a famous celebrity vastly outweigh the drawback of age.

Rather, the problem for older female idols is not a lack of men willing to date and possibly settle down with them, quite the opposite, they probably have dozens of men saying "Marry me noona," but they cannot accept them because, while dating may now be accepted for a senior idol, getting married and having kids is still an unpardonable offense for most delusional kpop stans

I'm taking care of them no worries

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getting married and having kids is still an unpardonable offense for most delusional kpop stans

I don't think fans are the primary problem. Settling down makes you unappealing to the industry itself in Korea. I can name idols & actors who got married and then instantly their job offers suddenly dried up to the point that they're basically retired far sooner than they probably intended. You could argue this is due to industry perceptions of fan interest and the effects that settling down potentially has on that, but if the people running the show insist on enforcing these standards, fans will never even have a chance to change them by showing continued interest.

5 out of 7 rainbow Girls are now married (or about to)

All lonely female idols in their 30s feel free to contact me

Individuals can decide whatever.

But as a society, S Koreans are unbreeding to themselves to extinction.

Another few decades at this rate, Kim Jong Un can just walk into the empty buildings of Gangnam.

At which point does social responsibility becomes more crucial than individual freedom?

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All lonely female idols in their 30s feel free to contact me

Starting with Bora...

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Damb she really is hot af ngl

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At which point does social responsibility becomes more crucial than individual freedom?

I'm not following. Elaborate, please.

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All lonely female idols in their 30s feel free to contact me

I'm sure watching you swoon over teenagers will make their hearts flutter.

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At which point does social responsibility becomes more crucial than individual freedom?

Never, and it isn't anyone's responsibility to have children. We aren't owed another generation.

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Meh men are just jealous that women live independently and don't want to marry them

Now that women can get jobs and don't require a man with an income to survive, the shitty dudes that don't put any effort into themselves are wondering why they are alone.

I always find it funny when these other men complain about being single or are pathetic incels etc. I never understand it.

If they put a tiny amount of effort into developing a personality, having some confidence, personal hygiene, looking halfway presentable in public, and not having misogynistic political views etc. Women would not find them repulsive.

The bar is so low its practically on the floor.

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I'm not following. Elaborate, please.

He's asking at which point should women be forced to become baby factories, against their own personal wants or wishes, to prop up a fading society

Which is.... hooooo boy....

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What's funny is older women who are unmarried are statistically much happier than their unmarried male counterparts

Would not surprise me, they prob divorced an emotionally stunted man toddler.

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I'm sure watching you swoon over teenagers will make their hearts flutter.

Hey, so that's insane!

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The bar is so low its practically on the floor.

understatement of the century.

the bar is in hell.

And its not even about simply developing a personality. Its about developing a personality that does not revolve around male dominance or even just dominance in general.

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He's ask at which point should women be forced to become baby factories, against their own personal wants or wishes, to prop up a fading society

well the better question would be to ask why the society is fading. there's a reason to everything which is why the whole "baby factory" nonsense is conceptually and morally flawed. It's beyond embarrassing to see that there are legit men out there who think women exist for the sole purpose of bearing and conceiving children.

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Hey, so that's insane!

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Never, and it isn't anyone's responsibility to have children. We aren't owed another generation

We aren't owed, but it is us who owe - the survival as a species, as a culture depends on having the next generation of kids.

While individuals will have exceptions, of as a collective the TFR falls so badly, that's endangered, extinction.

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What's funny is older women who are unmarried are statistically much happier than their unmarried male counterparts

The measurement of happiness is one of the most dubious things.

How many will actually owe up to being unhappy with their choices in life?

Besides how many actually know what happiness is possible and unhappiness.

The surveys of emotions, is a lot of bull.