D*mn, the obsession is real with this company

Knetz and ifans are besties when it comes to HYBE lol

So to sum up the commenters:

Dear knetz: cry more.

Ignore their groups and save kpop. It's that simple

and yet Hybe groups are succeeding at every turn

they must be doing something right

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Have A Side of Cheese with All That Whine

Gonna stream harder for Hybe groups on Spotify from now on.

because the music is still more important in this industry.

Noted

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Honestly, have there ever been controversies about the skills of SM, YGm and JYP idols?

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1. [+740, -9] At least the other companies don’t debut goats

Sorry but THAT was funny

the way hybe stans are upset in the comments lol

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HYBE was ruining K-Pop

HYBE was ruining K-Pop

The three big companies SM, YG and YG have arduous training periods and create idols with good overall skills, but HYBE is starting to mass produce idols, including idols with weak basic skills, while media playing that they are BTS’s dongsaeng groups

Honestly, have there ever been controversies about the skills of SM, YGm and JYP idols?

SM: SHINee EXO Red Velvet NCT Aespa RIIZE

JYP: Stray Kids ITZY NMIXX

YG: WINNER BABYMONSTER TREASURE BLACKPINK

HYBE fans make this worst, by being okay with this, shielding idols that are lacking in skills, defending subpar performances as good

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1. [+740, -9] At least the other companies don’t debut goats

2. [+647, -6] The way they gas up music streams is so real. Looking at music charts, it feels like I’m looking at faceless singers, or Instagram stars. Even if the Big 3 fought like f*ck back then, they still keep the line. But today, they only use money to defeat others. Such a bubble

3. [+591, -8] Honestly, OP isn’t lying

4. [+587, -10] Skills is one thing, but HYBE is the corrupter of K-pop… Starting from concert ticket prices, most of the weird tricks originate from here

5. [+483, -10] Does it seem like this only affects fans? It affects stocks too. This is why entertainment companies should not be listed. They do media play so much, and all stock investors shield them so much. SM was really good at this, and it seems like it’s HYBE now

6. [+138, -147] Apart from all the idols they took over (SEVENTEEN, fromis_9, etc), all of the idols they have produced themselves, are not at the level of singers if you listen to their live singing… Including BTS

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i read it as SM stans bitter bec none of their grps ever made it global. despite massive media play and same level of marketing strategy they do like hybe. remember super M? buying slot for aespa for coachella ?even if they can sing a little better than others, sm artists are not known for lipsyncing but zero stage charisma .

YG stans think YG talents are great when BP is also mid in talent but their biggest selling pt is their star quality nothing else. TRS talent is overhyped as well thanks to yg media play but with zero star quality. Baemon is just more talented than BP but lacks the star quality and charisma of BP.

JYP- Twice & Itzy are definitely not the best vocalist so? Like Twice is in the industry for more than 7 yrs and still getting flak from encore . 😂

In short - all these hybe grps are not talented are nothing but pure jealousy bec hybe grps are the most successful to date beating all those big 3 . SM is a mess, YG is going down with so many criminal offense. only JYP is doing ok and thats bec of SKZ .

"The way they gas up music streams is so real. Looking at music charts, it feels like I’m looking at faceless singers, or Instagram stars. Even if the Big 3 fought like f*ck back then, they still keep the line. But today, they only use money to defeat others. Such a bubble"

EXACTLY

something needs to be seriously done. and it’s not just hybe, i also suspect kakao and it’s subsidiaries and anyone really with connections willing to pays bucks.

i mean it's okay to promote a 'rookie' (and only a rookie) to some extent, but slither yourself in the top 10 or worse in the top 5 unorganically is just wrong, it's plain cheating. but to steal n1 with money from a deserving act is just EVIL.

moreover it's just creates a fake bubble that could eventually implod. and the coachella disaster for example is one consequence of such blatant 'payola'. at some point the bubble can’t wistand reality any longer.

Bring back SM acts

it's 2024. If Borders, Toys-r-us, Bed bath and Beyond etc can go down, so can SM, YG ... Sunset comes for everyone.

Hybe fanatics do not yet understand the level of harm the company is causing to the K-pop genre, because in the end new groups will simply push the old Hybe groups into the background. It is no secret that the achievements of newjeans are on par with the achievements of BTS, in the first years of their existence, they have already reached heights that BTS was able to achieve only with a strong fandom. Even the latest comebacks of BTS members are simply nothing compared to illit.

By the way, it’s interesting that recently it’s with BTS members that managers make the most mistakes, apparently, the more qualified ones work with young groups.

Companies must embrace change or fall...

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"Honestly, have there ever been controversies about the skills of SM, YGm and JYP idols?"

It's obvious why no one in the comments refuted this ignorant AF comment

Hope this controversy does not lead to a SM lip sync situation

Y'all gonna make Lee Sooman come out and say he was right if y'all can't handle the highs and lows of actual live performances

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Do you remember when cue sheets revealed artists who sings live and who lipsyncs during performances in award/year-end shows?

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Do you remember when cue sheets revealed artists who sings live and who lipsyncs during performances in award/year-end shows?

for you

I'm jobless for saving the receipt lmao

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HYBE was ruining K-Pop

HYBE was ruining K-Pop

The three big companies SM, YG and YG have arduous training periods and create idols with good overall skills, but HYBE is starting to mass produce idols, including idols with weak basic skills, while media playing that they are BTS’s dongsaeng groups

Honestly, have there ever been controversies about the skills of SM, YGm and JYP idols?

SM: SHINee EXO Red Velvet NCT Aespa RIIZE

JYP: Stray Kids ITZY NMIXX

YG: WINNER BABYMONSTER TREASURE BLACKPINK

HYBE fans make this worst, by being okay with this, shielding idols that are lacking in skills, defending subpar performances as good

[+2143, -217]

1. [+740, -9] At least the other companies don’t debut goats

2. [+647, -6] The way they gas up music streams is so real. Looking at music charts, it feels like I’m looking at faceless singers, or Instagram stars. Even if the Big 3 fought like f*ck back then, they still keep the line. But today, they only use money to defeat others. Such a bubble

3. [+591, -8] Honestly, OP isn’t lying

4. [+587, -10] Skills is one thing, but HYBE is the corrupter of K-pop… Starting from concert ticket prices, most of the weird tricks originate from here

5. [+483, -10] Does it seem like this only affects fans? It affects stocks too. This is why entertainment companies should not be listed. They do media play so much, and all stock investors shield them so much. SM was really good at this, and it seems like it’s HYBE now

6. [+138, -147] Apart from all the idols they took over (SEVENTEEN, fromis_9, etc), all of the idols they have produced themselves, are not at the level of singers if you listen to their live singing… Including BTS

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totally agree with this statement, nothing else to say. I said the same here on AKP forum. HYBE downgraded the industry

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for you

I'm jobless for saving the receipt lmao

I'm seeing a lot of pre-recorded vocals...

Company stans here in the comments are TrIggErd

People are delusional if they think that non-hybe groups are the most talented people and never had any skill controversies. But whatever makes you sleep at night I guess.

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By the way, it’s interesting that recently it’s with BTS members that managers make the most mistakes, apparently, the more qualified ones work with young groups.

BTS is not active as a group so it's not a surprise there is a changes in their staff/team. There is also bound to be new people working with them. Unlike before, BH was managing only them as 1 unit but now they have to manage 7 individuals. Last year, BTS members released music every 2-4 weeks which caused overlaps in schedule.

I like NJs but NJs "are on par with the achievements of BTS"... whut?!

Wow...

Okay, I'm off to streaming Lssfm and Illit so antis can cry me a bloody river of Payola again.