Should Kakao Entertainment have access to SM's producers, songwriters and demos for their other groups to use?
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well don't just leave us all hanging
I've already said how it is several times. And if you actually search about it you could see too. Kakao subsidiaries work in an independent way. Just because Kakao owns them doesnt mean they will interfer or they can exchange staff, artists or producers. It's not how it works.
Kakao owns these companies because they are a source of passive income. They arent going to change or let other subsidiaries change anything when these subsidiaries work in an independent way. Kakao owns many companies, but these companies work alone, separated from each other. Its not Kakao Family like you guys seem to think. Kakao is a tech company, not a music company like Hybe. Thats why messing with their music labels is not their business. They bought these companies so they can keep functioning on its own but redirect money and power to Kakao instead.
Basically nothing changes once Kakao buys a subsidiary that they call independent. These subsidiaries arent going to work together just because its owned by the same company.
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IU and IVE going to kwangya to join the fight against black mamba
the more the merrier!!!
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I've already said how it is several times. And if you actually search about it you could see too. Kakao subsidiaries work in an independent way. Just because Kakao owns them doesnt mean they will interfer or they can exchange staff, artists or producers. It's not how it works.
Kakao owns these companies because they are a source of passive income. They arent going to change or let other subsidiaries change anything when these subsidiaries work in an independent way. Kakao owns many companies, but these companies work alone, separated from each other. Its not Kakao Family like you guys seem to think. Kakao is a tech company, not a music company like Hybe. Thats why messing with their music labels is not their business. They bought these companies so they can keep functioning on its own but redirect money and power to Kakao instead.
Basically nothing changes once Kakao buys a subsidiary that they call independent. These subsidiaries arent going to work together just because its owned by the same company.
This is true, but that's in the past. SM isn't like all of Kakao's other little subsidiaries. It's one of the top three entertainment companies in Korea, and with this purchase, we know Kakao has big plans for SM and will actually be doing some managing for once. They are even installing their own BOD. And while yes, we know a lot of what they plan to do is on the IP and tech side of things, it's not impossible that they are also interested in finally organizing their smaller subsidiaries. SM 3.0 plan literally said they planned to move toward a multi-label system similar to HYBE. Now that Kakao is involved, it's not impossible that they intend to reign their other subsidiaries under Kakao M into that system as well and move toward a new form of management.
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I've already said how it is several times. And if you actually search about it you could see too. Kakao subsidiaries work in an independent way. Just because Kakao owns them doesnt mean they will interfer or they can exchange staff, artists or producers. It's not how it works.
Kakao owns these companies because they are a source of passive income. They arent going to change or let other subsidiaries change anything when these subsidiaries work in an independent way. Kakao owns many companies, but these companies work alone, separated from each other. Its not Kakao Family like you guys seem to think. Kakao is a tech company, not a music company like Hybe. Thats why messing with their music labels is not their business. They bought these companies so they can keep functioning on its own but redirect money and power to Kakao instead.
Basically nothing changes once Kakao buys a subsidiary that they call independent. These subsidiaries arent going to work together just because its owned by the same company.
hopefully ur right
Nothing surprising about Kakao Entertainment using SM’s producers for other projects though, SM is a big fish and they need to get their investment’s worth
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This is true, but that's in the past. SM isn't like all of Kakao's other little subsidiaries. It's one of the top three entertainment companies in Korea, and with this purchase, we know Kakao has big plans for SM and will actually be doing some managing for once. They are even installing their own BOD. And while yes, we know a lot of what they plan to do is on the IP and tech side of things, it's not impossible that they are also interested in finally organizing their smaller subsidiaries. SM 3.0 plan literally said they planned to move toward a multi-label system similar to HYBE. Now that Kakao is involved, it's not impossible that they intend to reign their other subsidiaries under Kakao M into that system as well and move toward a new form of management.
It doesnt matter, the moment subsidiaries such as Starship and SM are considered independent by Kakao it's Kakao's obligation to let the subsidiaries work in an independent way.
Kakao letting SM work in an independent way makes even more sense than letting Starship be independent exactly because SM is big fish. They want to keep generating that income.
What could happen is that they give more power to SM so they could work together with other music subsidiaries. But that can only happen if CEOs of other independent subsidiaries are ok with that. I am only guessing since I'm not into korean business, but it's what makes sense to me. Making all these subsidiaries work together just because SM arrived sounds too easy and simple. There's going to be opposition for sure if it's the case. Other CEOs won't accept the preferential treatment or be willing to give up their best resources to a bigger fish, much less SM will give away their stuff to smaller labels. That's why these labels are independent subsidiaries. It wasnt like that before, it's probably not going to change now. Besides Starship x SM x other labels that arent even under Kakao already have history of working together for cfs, collabs and such.
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I doubt there will be much creative crossover, kakao have never really been about that with all their other labels and subsidaries, they act pretty much independently for the most part.
What they do share is the infrastructure so to say, distribution, concerts/ticketing, various media etc.
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IU and IVE going to kwangya to join the fight against black mamba
IU IS the Black Mamba which SM fought for the last 13 years and was finally devoured by.
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IU x Winter collab when?
Wonyoung x Karina marketing campaign when?
Seola x Eunseo x Irene x Seulgi collab when?
Don't Starship do those end of year collabs?
Kwangya in Space concert when?
If SM had BoA, Kakao has Lee Jieun.
Lee Jieun has the power in Kakao Entertainment to do what she pleases and I am sure she is already plotting strategy.
She will do Got the Beat on her own way. She will make Wendy, WInter and whatnot dance to her sleepy tunes.
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It doesnt matter, the moment subsidiaries such as Starship and SM are considered independent by Kakao it's Kakao's obligation to let the subsidiaries work in an independent way.
Kakao letting SM work in an independent way makes even more sense than letting Starship be independent exactly because SM is big fish. They want to keep generating that income.
What could happen is that they give more power to SM so they could work together with other music subsidiaries. But that can only happen if CEOs of other independent subsidiaries are ok with that. I am only guessing since I'm not into korean business, but it's what makes sense to me. Making all these subsidiaries work together just because SM arrived sounds too easy and simple. There's going to be opposition for sure if it's the case. Other CEOs won't accept the preferential treatment or be willing to give up their best resources to a bigger fish, much less SM will give away their stuff to smaller labels. That's why these labels are independent subsidiaries. It wasnt like that before, it's probably not going to change now. Besides Starship x SM x other labels that arent even under Kakao already have history of working together for cfs, collabs and such.
yes, well, there are already articles that came out saying Kakao other subsidiaries will now have access to SM in producers and their trainers or training facility (something like that) which already shows what the potential future might look like. As I said, yes, right now Kakao subsidiaries are entirely independent, but there is no reason it will remain that way in the near future. Speaking of independence, HYBE labels are also "independent" (especially if what Min Hee Jin claims is true and there was no interference from Bang PD and the other guy running thr company), and yet all of HYBE groups still function as a "family" so to speak. There is still cohesion.
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This thread going 20 pages guaranteed lmao.
Ive and Aespa are now in laws
. Imagine having the top two It Girls of Kpop in one house, Wonyoungie and Karinaya. I hope we get Next Level Ive Version.IU and Taeyeon are now in laws as well. I dont remember them ever interacting. Will we get a smash hit duet from them?
I doubt they(IU/Taeyeon) would collab. They might have too much ego to do one. SM doesn’t like to collaborate with rivals even if they’re in-laws. In in-laws we don’t trust.
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