Did dating news actually ever affect a group negatively?

yes

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Which group?

many

Not really

i'm thinking e"dawn and hyuna who both got kicked out of their groups and company for dating.

also all the k-exols that actively started boycotting that one EXO member that got married and had a kid.

Edawn had to be kicked out from the group which let down the momentum of Pentagon

Baekhyun, Jonghyun and Taeyeon got tons of hate for their dating news as well but they survived

Super Junior? Sungmin wasn't able to promote as SJ since marriage.

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I don't think they got kicked out because of dating but rather not keeping it hidden like cube wanted to for that time? But it did have a direct impact so qualifies I guess

Oh this one wasn't nice but was it too extreme?

I don't see any differences between the dating thing and not keeping it hidden, though.

This is from an outsiders perspective so maybe an EXO-L can shine more light on this but from what I remember there were K-EXO L's even protesting outside the company for that member to leave the group.

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Edawn had to be kicked out from the group which let down the momentum of Pentagon

Baekhyun, Jonghyun and Taeyeon got tons of hate for their dating news as well but they survived

Im still shocked that Baekhyun survived a "scandal" like that so soon after his debut

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Were fans boycotting SJ because of him? And he needed to be removed to keep the fans?

Yes, K ELFS were the ones doing it and they wanted him ousted just because he got married. Poor guy.

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Im still shocked that Baekhyun survived a "scandal" like that so soon after his debut

EXO members have survived scandals after scandals, with members leaving, dating etc, it affected their popularity for short bit but they bounced back in the end

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Sulli/f(x) is the only one I can think of. While Krystal had the chic, mini Jessica Ice Princess image that women liked, Sulli was put in this innocent pure image that attracted men (keep in mind she was a minor for the majority of her time with f(x)) So when she started dating a rapper twice her age who's very name was a sexual innuendo, her fans, including her only fansite lost their shit. And that was the last straw that finally pushed her out of the group and pretty much ended what little attention SM gave f(x)

yes, when jonghyun (shinee) dated sekyung it went as far as some 'fans' leaving the fanclub and everything. it was pretty huge back then. jonghyun even had to apologize, which wasnt necessary if you ask me. shinee was never involved in any dating scandal ever since.

I guess most of the answers related more to previous generations since they've had more time since debut to date which i guess may infer that an older group member dating would be more accepted than a younger group member

As far as I understand from the answers, it is more effective in the 2nd generation. Since it's near the end of the 2nd generation in Exo, they were also affected. It doesn't have an effect in the 3rd generation, I think Koreans are used to it now. But now that the 4th generation groups are young, they have more young fans. Here, if one of the 4th generation groups dating, I think the fans will create more drama and a lot of fanfare.

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Edawn had to be kicked out from the group which let down the momentum of Pentagon

that wasn't because of dating, is because they went over the statement gave by their employer, cube knew they were dating long before

edit: as for the answer no it didn't, dating has little to no effect on their career beside that they get hate at that moment, just a very small and loud part of fanbase care about dating

It's a lot better now compared to the past. It was worst during first generation when a member from baby vox got death threats, rocks and eggs thrown at her, blades and blood letters sent to her because there was a rumor she was dating one of the H.O.T. member.

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that wasn't because of dating, is because they went over the statement gave by their employer, cube knew they were dating long before

edit: as for the answer no it didn't, dating has little to no effect on their career beside that they get hate at that moment, just a very small and loud part of fanbase care about dating

Umm.....Shine was so big though, I'm surprised you think that didn't affect the group negatively

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Umm.....Shine was so big though, I'm surprised you think that didn't affect the group negatively

that was the reason why Cube didn't wanted to announce the dating because Pentagon were rookies coming out of a semi hit, i think the mess that come out after dating affected them more than the dating itself since Pentagon never benefited from Shine blowing up and the fanbase was shaken before having a chance to stabilize

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that was the reason why Cube didn't wanted to announce the dating because Pentagon were rookies coming out of a semi hit, i think the mess that come out after dating affected them more than the dating itself since Pentagon never benefited from Shine blowing up and the fanbase was shaken before having a chance to stabilize

Oh, with that, I also agree

I think it depends on the type of fandom a group has.

A female group with lots of female fans will be less affected, as they don't want to see them as innocent per se, which male fans tend to do.

I do think Twice was more affected by dating than people sometimes think, in that some fans quietly abandonned them and went to look for a new group to stan. It's probably wise that they're now building more of a female fandom to compensate for what used to be a more stronger male dominated fandom.

I think it effects rookie groups. That’s why some companies give their groups a 3 year dating ban. Senior idols should mostly be fine

Surprised no one mentioned Kang Daniel's SHARP sales down turn following him dating jihyo

Dunno if it's causation or correlation but ever since Jihyo & Momo became public about dating, Twice's songs have been tanking on the charts

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I don't think they got kicked out because of dating but rather not keeping it hidden like cube wanted to for that time? But it did have a direct impact so qualifies I guess

Oh this one wasn't nice but was it too extreme?

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are the c-bars usually supportive of dating news? I'm curious

In EXO's case, none of their Chinese bars closed or protested in any way to any dating news.

I remember seeing TVXQ's Changmin SHARP decline in sales after his marriage... Like it was like 68K to 13.9K or something like that...

And it made really fcking angry because his album is like a contender for ALOTY based on quality.

As it came out that Dawn and Hyuna where dating I remember that Cube forced Pentagon to sit in a stupid press talking about Dawn getting kicked out and well ...Fans where super pissed at Dawn for apparently ruining the image of Pentagon 😬