LE SSERAFIM's pre-debut teasers face backlash for over sexualizing youth [AKP News -to> Forum]

It’s not what they’re wearing. It’s the way the video is filmed. Yes it looks predatory. The shots from above and below. The shots with their skirts and dresses hiking up. SMH kpop is a really creepy place sometimes.

If they were going for the Hollywood casting couch feel for the teaser, they definitely got it.

I think paid outrage is on display. Les seraphim looks like they are going to be huge. What better way to create controversy? And others will join in the band wagon. Kinda reminded me of Jennie and her nurse’s outfit.

Edit - to clarify my thoughts. I always felt kpop used young women and men and sexualised them. The outfits of leserphim are just as sexy as a lot of kpop idols so why selective outrage?

smh, women being sexy is not a problem

the problem is someone who watch with such intent

What's next? Photos with no clothes on for a photobook?

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smh, women being sexy is not a problem

the problem is someone who watch with such intent

thats some insane feminist shit

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TBH I'm not a fan of how male gaze-y this teaser is considering the age of these idols.

yep me as a girl doesn't care for it but it's clear that the way they filmed it was from a male gaze

As someone who has not watched the teaser yet:

There is gaslighting in this thread just like the other one discussing the tennis outfits.

They say you are the problem if you think there is sth wrong with it and these pictures or vids are sexual.

Gaslighting people into thinking they are in the wrong for observing sth that could be predatory. Calling them predators for questioning the intent behind an industry that is notorious for using young men and women.

The concept is a little bit too mature yes but definitely not over-sexual. The teaser is just pretty girls doing pretty girls things. You guys have a dirty-mind

This is starting to feel like a witch hunt.

I knew this would happen, that video was a bit too mature when you have a 15 and 16 years old members on the group. IVE was getting some criticism but this is worse, I hope they don't have a too mature concept or at least wait until minors grow up

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I know people will come in here with "but it's not what they intended" yes it was... the industry isn't dumb. They know exactly what they're doing. Otherwise you wouldn't have the CEO of Mystic Story saying they purposely set out to make Billlie a group with a concept that wasn't cute or sexy and wouldn't make women uncomfortable.

Also people like producers pds who said they wanted to make soft p*rn for men with that show.

Like get out of here with saying the men behind the scenes don't have bad intents.

Honestly, I didn't see anything sexual with it when I watched it. Heck, I've seen people younger than these girls wearing much less.

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Depends on perspective.

To be honest, I didn't see anything wrong with the angle, lighting, or setting at which the video was filmed, but maybe I didn't make the connection. It looked like a typical photoshoot to me. Photos or videos taken at a lower height have always been a technique to make the subject appear taller. If we go into it with preconceived ideas, we'll definitely interpret things as sexual when they might not be.

Sure, some variables could have been switched out to be more "modest," but creeps will still be creeps, always sexualizing something.

This take wasn’t it.

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I wasn't buying (at least most) of the Garam stuff, but I don't think that it's fair to lump this into it.

I disagree. Feels like more assumptions, opinions, judgements, meant to negatively impact the debut of this group.

i kind of agree tbh. the tennis concept photos were fine including garams but some of the shots in this video do make me feel uncomfortable. i think they should've let at least the younger two ones to grow up before doing such fearless concepts.

eunchae and garam are only 15 and 16, being a part of a group that is portrayed as "sexy" is very unfair to them.

All the adult men on here who are saying this isn’t predatory :

honestly it's kinda weird also idk if this a cultural different but this really a youth concepts since I don't feel any time of youth in the video

I didn't notice anything when I watched it. I guess it depends on your perspective.

Bruh, people's concept of sexy has really went backwards, almost like we are in middle ages where you have to have your legs and arms covered. What is sexy about any of those?

I didn't feel anything weird about it? Just models doing model things? Maybe Sakura was kinda sexy but thats about it. Didn't remember the minors doing anything weird....

Why do this kind of promo while having kids in the group? you can't genuinely tell me this is the fault of some for being "dirty minded", intentions of the company are clear

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Bruh, people's concept of sexy has really went backwards,

good change. no minors doing sexy concepts. im glad sexy concept is not a thing like it first was