Would you like it if your faves started releasing full English songs?

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probably not. i feel like its hard to have good kpop songs in English that don't sound weird.

Basically this.

My fav has been writing his solo songs in English since 2015

I actually really love them

i wouldnt mind it

I could not even think of that they havn't

I mean they released their debut song in English almost at the same time as the debut song came out, collabed in an English song with a French producer and have 3 English songs in total at the moment plus also did a crap ton of English song-cover

I almost have nobody in my mind right now who never did a English song or at least cover so it's bit weird for me to imagine that someone hasn't

I don't think I'd mind it

Well BTS has with Butter but with Aespa I'm happy with the songs they're putting out.

If they can do it skillfully like Monsta X then it's fine

but generally for me most other English songs released from KPOP groups fail to match that standard for me

I get triggered by atrociously bad pronunciation and of course bad grammar. I bookmarked this song from the Hotel Del Luna soundtrack where the dude completely butchers the English. He's probably trying to say "I feel alive" but instead ends up saying "I feel live", as in the place where you "live". It made me irrationally mad.

There's been hundreds of times where this sort of stuff happens in Kpop, Every group from BTS down to the tiniest nugus have had issues. Bad grammar, bad pronunciation on the most basic of words like "it" and "freak", bad diction, bad syntax. Each time it bothers me to varying degrees.

If you're gonna do an all English song, hire someone to get your pronunciation, grammar, syntax, and diction RIGHT. There are probably hundreds of foreign exchange students in Seoul who would probably KILL to review your lyrics and songs for proper English, they would do it for free.

Hell, if any labels are reading this, just contact ME ffs and i'll glady do it for free. This is how much this kinda stuff bothers me omg.

ETA: And in case anyone is wondering about my qualifications, i got a 700 on the English portion of my SATs.

I wouldn't mind

Sure. I wasn’t in kpop for Korean songs. I’m in kpop because of my faves. As long they produce bops and don’t turn out to be jerks, I’m fine

I think it works well when it's done like Monsta X's English album or TWICE's The Feels. English songs that were English from the get-go. Some of the English translation versions of popular kpop songs sound weird (which makes me wonder if jpop versions of kpop songs have that same problem a lot too...)

That said, part of the reason I like Monsta X's songs is that they don't indulge in the current western trend of singing like your mouth is full of marbles. Not all the English kpop songs bother to enunciate, which I get is the trend, but I don't like it any more from my faves than I do from western singers.

I mean as long as they’re as top tier The Feels, Icon, and Moonlight then I wouldn’t mind more English songs from TWICE!

Since I have been listening to songs in different languages since I was little, language is not so important to me. The important thing is that the song has to be good, catchy or enjoyable to listen to.

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I mean as long as they’re as top tier The Feels, Icon, and Moonlight then I wouldn’t mind more English songs from TWICE!

TBH Twice has been killing it with their translated English songs as well. Cry For Me and More and More English versions were awesome, better than their Korean versions, even ICSM English Version was superior. Itzy's English songs were good too. One thing that JYP has done right at JYPE is polishing up their English, hell maybe it's JYP himself doing it, he's supposed to be proficient in English as well as Japanese.

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if they haven't already? What if they started doing it most of the time for their title tracks?

As long as I like the song. Doesn't matter what language.

I think it works better in Korean, but I wouldn't mind finally being able to sing a full song. I wish we had the English version of Through The Night since IU originally wrote it in English.

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I think it works better in Korean, but I wouldn't mind finally being able to sing a full song. I wish we had the English version of Through The Night since IU originally wrote it in English.

She originally wrote it English..Whoa..

Do you have the link to that version?

Depends, on the lyrics, the diction etc.

For example, I am not a fan of Dynamite, because of the lyrics. BTS set me up for something like Spring Day and then to hear "Ding dong.. King Kong" .. ugggh..

There are many who don't bother about lyrics, just groove to music and dance.. Doesn't work for me.

And not just in kpop.

I am not sold just because a favorite singer is singing something, I should like the song itself, by itself - music, lyrics, meaning etc.

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I think it works better in Korean, but I wouldn't mind finally being able to sing a full song. I wish we had the English version of Through The Night since IU originally wrote it in English.

It also depends on the fave. If they're from SM, I would pass. I don't need more "do you wanna upside down?" or "the only girl who lives in a dream".

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She originally wrote it English..Whoa..

Do you have the link to that version?

There's none. She only said it.

My faves already have English song, but not tittle track.

it is bop

yes and no.

on the one hand I'd have more songs to share

but on the other hand I like kpop for the fact that I can't understand korean -- I use it for studying and lyrics that I can understand are quite distracting.

Deeper though, I like to learn about korean linguistics and culture through kpop; Those touted as prolific writers will cast a wide net of cultural reference, history, and customs and densely pack it into 2-5 minutes of song. I am heavily interested because Korea, china, and Japan are very closely related, culturally and it is fascinating to me how the similarities and differences tell a story in and of its own

Ex: Korea and japan were seperated from the chinese sphere of influence before chairs were prolific in china - hence china has a lot of traditional furniture sets with chairs whereas traditional korean and japanese seating arrangements still involve floor cushions.

a lot of projects that will do all english or mixed english tend to skimp on that. Even non-historical songs you can see phrasing, vocab usage, etc that is fundamentally a part of a old and established language and one that is still evolving with modern day - you can see references to ancient culture, sure, but you can get updates on current lingo and interests of a modern society in korea.

Some acts with music that I already fav-or have some English versions. Others on the list should have more.

I think the basis should be if an English version adds a lot of value to the song rather than exclusively because it's a title track. For example, there is way more added value in an English version of Twice's "The Feels" than "Scientist".

There are always exceptions to the rule. Moonbyul's English version of "Lunatic" hits at 75-80% proficiency and has a "practical" mix of K-Pop and more "universally" appealing production elements with a quirky character to it. It has a highly energizing live-performance quality too..perfect for closing out a live set. She probably won't get much or any flowers for it because RBW doesn't have as many people to hype everything their acts put out, worthy or not, compared to the BIG-3.

I would like it if they liked it. I know that sounds a bit hive minded of me, so let me explain: I know they make the majority of their music and as such, only release what they like, not what the company gives them. That, to me, means that if they made an all-English song, they did it because they like it. It wouldn't be to grow an even bigger Western fanbase because I've heard they're more popular overseas than in Korea anyway.

They do have plenty of great English versions. I just hope they wouldn't screw it up as badly as they did the Domino English lyrics. They made four great, all English versions of songs before and have two native speakers and even more fluent speakers. How did they mess up Domino's English lyrics so bad? When I said that I would like it, I meant that I would like it in the sense that they released a song that they like and hopefully didn't botch the lyrics. As for whether or not I'd like the song, that depends on the message in the lyrics and the beat. Lyrics matter more to me when I can actually understand them. Have a great day/night!

Some of my faves already did it and I don't see an issue with it as long as I like the song.

They already have some English versions of songs, some of which are particularly good for what you'd expect for an English version (Slump, Domino, but especially Levanter–it's one of the best English versions in kpop I swear). However, I wouldn't want them to do full English title tracks; the reason for that is that Changbin and Han's main language is Korean, and that's the language they understand the workings of the best. So I just wouldn't want their individuality and creativity to get lost in translation. Stray Kids already have a fair amount of English in a lot of their songs (likely since Chan is bilingual) which works very well; I just wouldn't want the other two feel too pressured in their creative process by being restricted to English only.

Since my faves have already done that... but if its goid its good if its bad its bad. Language doesnt matter

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They already have some English versions of songs, some of which are particularly good for what you'd expect for an English version (Slump, Domino, but especially Levanter–it's one of the best English versions in kpop I swear). However, I wouldn't want them to do full English title tracks; the reason for that is that Changbin and Han's main language is Korean, and that's the language they understand the workings of the best. So I just wouldn't want their individuality and creativity to get lost in translation. Stray Kids already have a fair amount of English in a lot of their songs (likely since Chan is bilingual) which works very well; I just wouldn't want the other two feel too pressured in their creative process by being restricted to English only.

True, I didn't think about that. If they did a divide and conquer method, that might help out with a lot of that, but from what I heard, they all work together as a team, not in that way. I think Han's pretty good at English, so I'd be a bit more worried about Changbin between the two of them and keeping up. If they made the song more of a group project and had everyone help out, maybe it would be easier for the members who don't speak it as well, but still (Felix and Seungmin are both good at English and made tracks before, but not as many and haven't had as much experience with it before, so who knows exactly how much that would help). Have a great day/night!