kep1er's failure: who's fault is it?

GP999 flopped in Korea. I-land flopped in Korea. See a pattern here? Korea is just over Mnet idol competition shows. Maybe because Mnet is an actual criminal who rigged Produce and Koreans remember that they promised not to make anymore idol shows. But Internationals don't care, just as long as they get entertained. All those people crying for "Justice" during the Produce scandal? Hypocrites. They never actually cared. Most of them watched GP999 anyways. They just wanted to have an excuse to hate on IZ*One and X1.

Unrelated they could made Izone a permanent group, whew the star

power of that group was wasted

Mnet made it clear with the way their show was edited and how their voting system worked that this group was not for an International Fan like myself

So I was off the Kepler band wagon before they even had that name

In answer to your question, and I can only answer for myself, the reason I don't support Kepler and have Zero interest in them is 99% because of Mnet

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one of the ex pristim members actually has credits on wa da da apparently lol

Yep, she helped write the lyrics which did make me nervous when I saw the track list lol.

Kep1er doesn't even have monstrous sales which are expected from produce show groups. I thought they'd at least have iz*one's debut sales covered in the preorder period

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i mean, they have the highest first day debut sales of any girl group ever from what i saw. so i think monster is an accurate descriptor either way lol

It's different in their case, they pumped out 3/4 of their preorder sales in the first day. That would be impressive if it wasn't for the fact that they revealed their preorders as 200k.

Yurina's Karma

The manipulation issue makes Knetz don't give a f anymore their group unless their song is really that close to public preference

kep1er's song floped because it's just not good. plus, the group doesn't have any standout members unlike the produce groups before them (i.o.i had somi, chungha and doyeon, izone had sakura, wonyoung and minju), the mv wasn't really high quality, the show also kinda flopped and had it's controversial moments (the mentors' lack of constructive criticism, editing in favour of certain members and etc... ), the concept isn't much popular among kfans...

about ive - i personally don't understand the eleven lashings. the song is not nearly as bad as most of you are making it out to be. yes, it doesn't have a high replay value but aside from this it's a great debut

Because their company is dumb

The show was not successful in Korea

The song is bad

personally, i think the only good members are Xiaoting and Chaehyun

Eleven is a phenomenal once a century type song. That shit gonna be korea's national anthem soon. Wa -da- da on the other hands sounds like 2014 or something, so outdated, and uninspiring.

I think we should give them more time. It’s only been 2 days