[KN] TW; Netizens talk about Aespa Giselle’s controversial remark

is just a joke?

As an SM idol, she should know better than others about the affect suicide has on people and that its not something to joke about!

well it's true celebrities need to be careful what they say

Another Giselle scandal, seriously considering how new Aespa is still(2020 debut) I do worry how this will affect the group somewhat.

Why would she say that on camera ?? I mean that's a "normal" expression (even if it's bad) but your on camera girl, and saying you'd k*ll yourself if your phone drops is not a good look...Giselle it's not looking good for you. Some people may say it's not a big deal and honestly it's not so bad (she still should not have said that expression, and I even stopped saying that expression because I realized how terrible it sounds) but considering the suicide rate of Korea, it's quite sensitive.

I don't like when people say things like that in general but is it an issue? No

I'm assuming from the context that it came out a lot cruder + in a way that isn't often used in Korean vs the normal "I want to die omg"

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I'm assuming from the context that it came out a lot cruder + in a way that isn't often used in Korean vs the normal "I want to die omg"

i dont speak korean but apparently, from korean fans, she said the word for suicide

Suicide is a huge issue in Korea I know.

It's big everywhere, but I know people who say "I would kill myself if..." or "I want to kill myself..." or "I want to die..." or "Kill me"....

Especially in the West and in the younger generations. I know millennials used to say it a lot too. I still have friends who talk like that, and I jokingly say it to myself too sometimes if I do something stupid.

I wouldn't be surprised if teenaged Koreans spoke like that, but I can understand why people wouldn't like it. It's distasteful. She's just a young girl who is probably following a trend, so it's better to tell her it's better to not speak (on camera) like that versus attacking her. I blame this on whatever SM staff actually let this get out.

Also, I feel bad for Giselle. She's had a rough year. I hope things get better for her.

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i dont speak korean but apparently, from korean fans, she said the word for suicide

She is Japanese. Probably just came out worse than what she meant

While we can call this a "common" phrase among young people, it's clear it is very triggering for a lot of other people. It looks very bad for a celebrity to say that so casually on camera especially in Korea where suicide is such a huge problem. Hopefully she'll be more careful next time.

Knetz would loathe my ass if I were an idol oh my god

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She is Japanese. Probably just came out worse than what she meant

spent more time in the US than in Japan she went to high school in the US n her japanese is bleh, nowhere near fluent

I remember I joked with my friends once about how I felt like dying and one of them called me out on that and ever since I've been cautious about saying stuff like that lol I feel the same way I feel with the NCT thing, if they weren't famous this would hardly be an issue and they'd learn their lesson if someone called them out once but obvs everything turns 10x bigger

Comment 8 sums it up best, she should be a little more careful but it's not really a 'scandal' worthy of much backlash if any at all.

It's a phrase I'm sure the majority of young people use these days, idols are held to higher standard in things like this, but come on.

i say this everything :shyy:

but i understand how it can be triggering for some people

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idk how things are in korea, but as a highschooler in the U.S. this is sooo freaking common to hear istg.

over every little thing. i don't think its fair that no one says anything when someone normally says it but its suddenly an issue because she's a celebrity.

as someone who avoids using that phrase, i understand why people could be hurt or uncomfortable with her saying that but why the fuck are people bashing her? she won't understand why its hurting/offending people if they just yell at her.

its like when your parents yell at you when you get 3+3 wrong as a five-year-old, but don't explain why or what the right answer is.

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This. Just this.

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Which is the problem. When you're a celebrity, and most of your audience are underage kids, you DON'T joke about suicide, which affected several known idols in her own company

meh ive been hearing suicide jokes since I was in middle school

they're not the funniest but a part of everyday life

nothing offensive whatsoever

I say this all the time as a joke (though I admit I try to stop but it's not easy because it comes so lightly in my daily talks) but I feel that she mean no harm obviously, maybe she will take more care of what she says because people are with the eyes on her all the time unfortunately they will judge her like that I don't see harm in what she said however I understand that talking lightly about this is a little worrying for some.

So let's just learn to make a difference between something harmful vs something said with no ill intent

and expect her to be a more careful because we never know how people will take it

that's how I feel

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Middle school kids also say the n-word a lot. Doesn't mean it's not serious

those aren't even comparable

All genZ ever talks about is various versions of killings themselves. And it’s not even an exaggeration. The number of tiktok or social media trends around this is crazy.

Yeah it can be triggering but also this particular one feels like foot in mouth. She wanted to say something like “she’d dieee without it” and it came out sounding like this.

It feels so pathetically silly to even talk about this issue lol.

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spent more time in the US than in Japan she went to high school in the US n her japanese is bleh, nowhere near fluent

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She went to an international school in Japan, not an actual American school no?

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She went to an international school in Japan, not an actual American school no?

whaaat I read that she was in the US O__O

genuinely surprised because her japanese isn’t that good like she’s not fluent

Man I could kill for some burritos right about now...

No I don't mean I would literally kill. Oh no I'm cancelled for common a turn of phrase. Fuck that shit. No wait, I don't literally mean have sex with poop

interesting...

did she actually refer to I'm going to committed suicide if i drop my phone or was it more a phrase like OMG I will literally die if I drop my phone...

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A lot of young people say things like this. Unless you're running for political office or something like that, no one is going to check you for saying it.

It's been popular for younger folks to use dark humor about their hardships. "KMS" is a popular saying that many use when inconveniences, large or small, get in the way of their hectic lives.

It's a contextual thing. If an American celebrity had said this, this wouldn't be an issue with American fans. But since Korea doesn't tolerate dark humor about this topic, it obviously will rub many the wrong way. Asian culture in general doesn't like dark humor about death. Even something like "My parents are gonna kill me if I do this" will not be taken very well.

I think Giselle was exposed to a lot of these jokes during her time at the international school, so she thought it was fine. It's good that she'll learn from this, but it sucks that she had to learn about it this way instead of growing out of it like ordinary people do.

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The kill myself jokes are universal among genZ across the world. Not just the US or the west etc. This just feels like picking on a non issue because she’s an idol.

Literally everyone in this forum has said some version of "shoot me", "kill me now", "i'm gonna die if...".

Nonissue.