How Noise Music is Ruining Kpop

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    What do you think? I will state my opinion after ten replies.

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    Changed the title of the thread from “What Do You Think Of This Video About Noise Music?” to “How Noise Music is Ruining Kpop”.
  • Stray Kids and badly written raps :pepewhat: the creator became a joke to me at that point


    I could barely get past the intro it was so insufferable.

    Like the combination of being really dumb but also really angry about the thing you're dumb about (in this case: music) for no reason.


    She did remind me of the eternal bops Why Not by Loona and Side Effects by Stray Kids though, so bless her for that.

  • The video maker did not want to discuss they just wanted to hate lol

    Anyway, there are some great "noise" music, and there some bad "noise" music, which is what depends on your preference :sleeping:

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  • lol what a clown. I didnt even bother watching the video, Hopefully she's trolling for clicks and comments and this isnt her actual opinion cause she sounds dumb af.


    Noise music is 1000000x better than the generic, rehashed trash we see mostly in Western pop. Mumbling and chanting into an autotuned mic, songs with zero musicality and anything resembling inventiveness and originality. lol no thanks, keep that garbage to yourself.

      

  • I could barely get past the intro it was so insufferable.

    Like the combination of being really dumb but also really angry about the thing you're dumb about (in this case: music) for no reason

    Serious question:

    Is this SeulgisAbs 's channel that she sometimes talks about?

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    she spilled though 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️


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  • also this ajanae trying to surpass her other video that has 16k dislikes. I can see this getting 20k dislikes :cheersc::flying:

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    How is Lunarsolar terrible music, such a :pepe-clown-gear:

  • The creator probably is using cheap earphones.


    Im using the in the box earphones before and good lord, songs like 'FIRST' by everglow gives me headache but after using a better TWS, I can listen to it without cracking my head plus you'll be abke to here the instrumental layers better.

  • also this ajanae trying to surpass her other video that has 16k dislikes. I can see this getting 20k dislikes :cheersc::flying:

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    How is Lunarsolar terrible music, such a :pepe-clown-gear:

    when that vid started with DCM

    lmao

    then she has hate that there............................

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  • also this ajanae trying to surpass her other video that has 16k dislikes. I can see this getting 20k dislikes :cheersc::flying:

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    How is Lunarsolar terrible music, such a :pepe-clown-gear:

    You give way too much importance to these videos. And a bigger audience by spreading them here lol.

  • The music kpop fans think is "noise music" isn't even noise music. It's just hip hop and edm infused pop music which isn't even new to kpop.


    This shit came out in 2014.

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    This came out in 2012.

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    This came out in 2007.

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    The only thing that needs to stop is edgelord kpop youtubers who come up with flimsy excuses to shit on groups. Go back to making "my unpopular kpop opinions (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION NO HATE)" videos.

  • Anyway I don't want to hear about kpop groups and noise music until a single kpop group has the scones to release something like this:

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    Miss me until then y'all.

  • there are parts i agree with, parts i disagree with


    agree:

    1. noise music sucks (my preference)
    2. songs shouldn't have to "grow on you" (again, my preference)
    3. a lot of shitty music is being passed off as experimental
    4. lots of fourth gen groups need new producers (can't skz go back to hellavator type music? but anyways they cater to stays not me, and im a basic bitch who wants her fave songs remade in 50 different ways)
    5. i miss 2018 kpop

    disagree:

    1. fourth gen music is all noise music (stan weeekly and txt for clear skin)
    2. people dont like noise music (the whole stay and nctzen fandoms exist for what exactly then?)
    3. rv and bts were passed off as generic because of noise music in 2021 (even armys agree that bts's english trilogy are fun and light hearted music. no one is claiming the songs are unique and art of some sort. the songs are generic, and that's okay. bts released my universe, and fixed it all)
    4. noise music is ruining kpop (listen to other artists then yikes)

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  • She’s right in a sense, noise music really is ruining kpop. Especially domestically.


    Let’s face it, if you have to listen to a song 50 times to convince yourself that it’s good then it’s probably not a good song. 3rd gen songs were definitely easier to digest and got you hooked on the first listen. That’s probably part of the reason why that generation was so successful digitally.


    However when it comes to 4th gen, we often times get songs with empty choruses, heavy beat drops, and just noises that can be a little bit too much on the ears. And yes there are some groups who do “noise music” and still do well in korea but those groups are Big 3. Any other smaller group that does that won’t even chart, and heck some big 3 groups who do this sound don’t even chart.


    That’s why I think part of the reason groups like IZ*ONE, (G)I-DLE, and STAYC did/are doing so well in Korea was because their songs are easier on the ears. They’re fresh in a sea full of noise essentially. And for 4th gen to really succeed I think they need to tone it down a bit and just give us some good old fashion Pop songs.

  • I could barely get past the intro it was so insufferable.

    Like the combination of being really dumb but also really angry about the thing you're dumb about (in this case: music) for no reason.


    She did remind me of the eternal bops Why Not by Loona and Side Effects by Stray Kids though, so bless her for that.

    redvelvetsus is known for being a very… strange person.

    Apparently she cried in an Instagram live because she was called out for spreading misinformation about (G)-Idle. :sweatr:


    Also her argumentation is shit. Admits she doesn't know too much about music, but is extremely judgemental throughout the entire thing, and speaks as if she had any authority to do so. Lumps together songs that are nothing alike. Makes stupid claims, like the Stray Kids one; Koreans and normal international kpop fans praise their rap and lyricism. And God's Menu is probably the only 4th gen bg song that could be called iconic already, so that's about all songs with edm and rap being bound to be shortly forgotten ¬‿¬


    Even suggesting that Side Effects is generic in any way, when SKZ were the first kpop group to incorporate psychedelic trance, and the effort put into making an unsettling composition to throw the listener off guard and make them feel what the song expresses, is impressive. A breath of fresh air in the industry.


    She conveniently forgets to think about the power of nostalgia and survivorship bias when talking about the 3rd gen. There were a lot of songs that weren't that good back then too; people just forgot about them. And many kpop stans got into kpop in the 3rd gen, and there was indeed a shift in trends (such as the rise of teen crush for girl groups), so if they don't like it, that's not necessarily because the music is objectively bad, but rather because it's not what they're used to.

  • but like, what is noise music... it's not a genre for the context at hand, nor really still a thing you can use and immediately oh, yes, this for certain is that. It's a very veryyyy vague label that synonymous with " music I don't like "

    i just describe it as jarring, disjointed and headache inducing

    skz's side effects, nct's sticker, aespa's next level are my top picks for that


    but other edm songs like

    skz's hellavator, nct's boss, aespa's savage

    wouldn't qualify for me since they have a more coherent feel to them


    for me, another definition would be when the background instrumentals are much much louder than the vocals

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  • Also sometimes making generic music is not bad ik it’s personality trait here to hate western music but even some garbage songs like ‘get into it’ hit more than some of these noisy mess in kpop


    :angryr:


    I’m done here I just wanted to rant

    I agree lol

    Doja makes the most "generic" songs but damn they hit hard and theyre addicting :sweatr:

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  • 1 itzy did not make noise music popular lmao they don`t even make noise music (just icy) and that is it, it`s so stupid how any other song nowdays is noise music i was so shocked when a music reviewer called wannabe noise music like wtf.. there is a ton of non noise music out there an gp still ain`t listening to that either


    2 gp just lost intrest after 2nd gen was over only few groups in 3rd gen and 4th gen actually managed to chart well, or have the public know them and their names.. a big reason is how huge fandoms became groups stopped promoting so much on tv cuz they don`t need it so the public don`t care about them anymore


    3 the thing with fans pretending to like noise music or being brain washed is so stupid if anything it`s the opposite sometimes a song that has loud instrumentals gets instantly called trash when in reality it`s a good song but ppl almost don`t want to like it and then enjoy acting superior while trashing on the song


    4 i have much more to say, but i`m too lazy to write more :whistling:

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  • What is disjointed about Side Effects? The song structure is the most normal thing about the song.

  • but like, what is noise music... it's not a genre for the context at hand, nor really still a thing you can use and immediately oh, yes, this for certain is that. It's a very veryyyy vague label that synonymous with " music I don't like "

    “Noise music” typically refers to Kpop songs that either sound all over the place, are just very messy, or just sound like the producers put a bunch of random noises together and called it a song.


    Some examples of songs that kpop stans have classified as “noise music” :

    - Why Not by Loona

    - Savage by Aespa

    - Side Effects by Stray Kids

    - Icy by Itzy

    - Oopsie my bad by Nature

    - Break all the rules by Cravity

    - To the beat by Ateez

    - Dun Dun by Everglow

    - Miroh by Stray Kids


    This isn’t my opinion but those are just a few from what I’ve seen.

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