Ah so BTS made having an accent "aceptable" ?
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he should try singing in a language that's not his mother tongue and let's see how he'll sound
He allready does, that guy is Swedish and his stuff on YT is English
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I actually welcome this. He worded it weirdly but as a non-native English speaker a lot of people get too fuzzy about an accent. Like most of these people complaining- mostly native English speaker who either speak only English or have a strong accent themselves in their other languages - are literally acting as if English is an easy language for everyone. I admit that if the accent is so strong that you do not understand anything, is not really what I mean but globalization means that a lot of people from throughout the world learn different languages and accents are inevitable. Also people should realize that due to the imperialistic background of English that English has a lot of accents besides the American and the British one that have been around for a long time
To add more: When I was learning French, my teacher always said that my pronunciation was wrong but in reality I just talked with a little bit of a African French dialect. This is why it is important that we should normalize accents
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I actually welcome this. He worded it weirdly but as a non-native English speaker a lot of people get too fuzzy about an accent. Like most of these people complaining- mostly native English speaker who either speak only English or have a strong accent themselves in their other languages - are literally acting as if English is an easy language for everyone. I admit that if the accent is so strong that you do not understand anything, is not really what I mean but globalization means that a lot of people from throughout the world learn different languages and accents are inevitable. Also people should realize that due to the imperialistic background of English that English has a lot of accents besides the American and the British one that have been around for a long time
To add more: When I was learning French, my teacher always said that my pronunciation was wrong but in reality I just talked with a little bit of a African French dialect. This is why it is important that we should normalize accents
This is so interesting, wow. As a language learner myself, this was cool to read.
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This is so interesting, wow. As a language learner myself, this was cool to read.
Thank you! What language are you learning?
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I actually welcome this. He worded it weirdly but as a non-native English speaker a lot of people get too fuzzy about an accent. Like most of these people complaining- mostly native English speaker who either speak only English or have a strong accent themselves in their other languages - are literally acting as if English is an easy language for everyone. I admit that if the accent is so strong that you do not understand anything, is not really what I mean but globalization means that a lot of people from throughout the world learn different languages and accents are inevitable. Also people should realize that due to the imperialistic background of English that English has a lot of accents besides the American and the British one that have been around for a long time
To add more: When I was learning French, my teacher always said that my pronunciation was wrong but in reality I just talked with a little bit of a African French dialect. This is why it is important that we should normalize accents
If I speak to you in Singlish (Singaporean English) you probably be confused and ask me why do I speak like that
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That’s the same with a lot of “African French“. They mix so many languages sometimes plus the ones they additionally can speak. My mom speaks French, German, a local language and English and sometimes while talking to family that can speak all of them she uses all of them. It’s so funny since she speaks louder or more quiet and so differently while switching the language. It’s a whole performance
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That’s the same with a lot of “African French“. They mix so many languages sometimes plus the ones they additionally can speak. My mom speaks French, German, a local language and English and sometimes while talking to family that can speak all of them she uses all of them. It’s so funny since she speaks louder or more quiet and so differently while switching the language. It’s a whole performance
We mix like English + Chinese + Malay + Hokkien + our own made up words that don't exist in the dictionary
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Lmaoo same as I said it could be a year end performance lmaoo
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Thank you! What language are you learning?
Spanish, I've been learning it for years but language conversations always pique my interest.
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Spanish, I've been learning it for years but language conversations always pique my interest.
What do you use for self study in your free time, or are you just doing classes or tutoring?
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What do you use for self study in your free time, or are you just doing classes or tutoring?
I haven't formally studied in a classroom for over 2 years, right now I just speak with friends over social media. Some are bilingual and some are solely Spanish speakers, but I prefer to speak Spanish to decrease my reliance on giving up and resorting to using a translator (unless it's a word I've never seen before, in which case I write it down).
One of my goals in life is to never lose the ability to speak Spanish. I can hold up a conversation over text really well, I just lose confidence when I'm face-to-face but I can do that too.
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I don't see anything wrong with what he said. He probably means Asian accent, and it's true that BTS members are making it more commonly heard.
People romanticize European accents all the time, but the moment someone has a different accent, they complain or shame because they've been taught some languages and cultures are better than others.
With more exposure and with more glimpses of people speaking with a different accent, it gets normalized over time. People shouldn't feel the need to lose their accent; everyone has one.
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Learning French and Spanish at the same time can get confusing due to the similarity you can mix stuff up when learning them both.
They should def take their French to fluent first, you don't want to fall into the trap of learning a little bit in one language then switching to another etc. I know a lot of language learners know a little bit in a ton of different languages but never reach fluency in any etc.
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Korean is not hard at all if you study any romance languages.
Just get the alphabet and then it's read as you write, same as any other romance languages.
What you hear is what you write, and for me it helped me learn quite a lot.
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I have been learning Korean and I really like it! I can understand some Spanish (mostly written) due to its French connection but I really like its sound. It sounds sooo good
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Learning French and Spanish at the same time can get confusing due to the similarity you can mix stuff up when learning them both.
They should def take their French to fluent first, you don't want to fall into the trap of learning a little bit in one language then switching to another etc. I know a lot of language learners know a little bit in a ton of different languages but never reach fluency in any etc.
I want to get as close to Spanish mastery as I can. Korean is nothing like it so that helps lol
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Korean is not hard at all if you study any romance languages.
Just get the alphabet and then it's read as you write, same as any other romance languages.
What you hear is what you write, and for me it helped me learn quite a lot.
Interesting perspective, it's the verb conjugation that throws me off. The alphabet is extremely easy to learn though, you're right about that. I was surprised.
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I have been learning Korean and I really like it! I can understand some Spanish (mostly written) due to its French connection but I really like its sound. It sounds sooo good
Type something in French that is completely unrelated to this conversation, I'm tryna see something.
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Spanish, I've been learning it for years but language conversations always pique my interest.
Hola fan masivo del kpop
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sad but honestly a lot of people in the states tend to think you're less intelligent if you have an accent like they start talking all slow and loud... when I first came here it made me so angry that people thought I was dumb so I worked hard to assimilate and get an American accent so I would be taken more seriously
You're an American immigrant? It does not come across in your speech, impressive. The talking slow and loud bit is annoying as fuck, but I think that's the nervous default most people resort to. Doesn't matter if they only know basic words and phrases, how the fuck is someone with low fluency gonna understand you anyway?
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Hola fan masivo del kpop
genial, puedo utilizar mis habilidades. saludos! de donde eres?
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Interesting perspective, it's the verb conjugation that throws me off. The alphabet is extremely easy to learn though, you're right about that. I was surprised.
The thing with the conjugation, if you are a native Romanian speaker we also have the same conjugations.
That's why it's easier for me.
The other Romance languages do not have the exact same, but they are pretty close.
Dativ is actually quite a lost past tense in Romance languages.
But the whole idea of making a sentence without having a subject is ever present in Romanian language.
Same with Korean.
To be honest, we share consonants and vowels with Korean that no other languages do.
It's kinda freaky to me how close our sounds our.
One of the hardest vowels to pronounce for a foreign person is the straight up |
Foreigners call that EO, I call that î and it sounds exactly the same as I pronounce it with the way they pronounce it.
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genial, puedo utilizar mis habilidades. saludos! de donde eres?
De chile y tu? Saludos para ti tambien
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The thing with the conjugation, if you are a native Romanian speaker we also have the same conjugations.
That's why it's easier for me.
The other Romance languages do not have the exact same, but they are pretty close.
Dativ is actually quite a lost past tense in Romance languages.
But the whole idea of making a sentence without having a subject is ever present in Romanian language.
Same with Korean.
To be honest, we share consonants and vowels with Korean that no other languages do.
It's kinda freaky to me how close our sounds our.
One of the hardest vowels to pronounce for a foreign person is the straight up |
Foreigners call that EO, I call that î and it sounds exactly the same as I pronounce it with the way they pronounce it.
This is so interesting, I haven't heard much Romanian but that's so cool that a language nearly halfway around the world sounds close to yours phonetically.
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De chile y tu? Saludos para ti tambien
soy estadounidense, afroamericano para ser preciso. siempre es un placer charlar con hispanohablantes nativos para probar yo mismo.
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hell yeah it is! I was always good at english lit anyway
my first memory was of people talking about me in english right in front of me, thinking that I couldn't understand them. it was demeaning and they treated me like I was stupid. the dumbest part was that I WOULD TELL THEM TO STOP talking to me in that loud white lady voice and they would never ever listen. scarred lmao
you did the karen voice and they didn't flinch...sickening.
where are you from?
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soy estadounidense, afroamericano para ser preciso. siempre es un placer charlar con hispanohablantes nativos para probar yo mismo.
Tu español es bastante bueno, se notan los años de practica.
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