Biggest 2nd gen girl groups?
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Overall Snsd face of kpop ww >>>> 2ne1 face of kpop ww >>>>>>>> Kara dominated in sk and japan>> T-are dominated sk and China>>>>>> wonder girls dominated sk
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Ok this is how I rank it being as objective as I can
1: SNSD without a doubt
3 - 5: Three way tie between Kara/Wonder Girls/Sistar. Kara had a huge Japanese fanbase which give them a huge edge there. Wonder Girls had a higher peak than Kara/Sistar in the earlier days. Sistar had amazing digitals and were consistently popular across the years
6: T-ara, despite their scandal which was proven to be false too late, no one can deny their impact
7: f(x)
8: Apink, to add on they are still going strong
9 - 13: Girl's Day/AOA/EXID/miss A/4Minute. Hard to rank these groups so I put them all around the same rank.
14 - The rest: Notable groups include Brown Eyed Girls/After School/Secret, and the rest etc etc
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Ok this is how I rank it being as objective as I can
1: SNSD without a doubt
3 - 5: Three way tie between Kara/Wonder Girls/Sistar. Kara had a huge Japanese fanbase which give them a huge edge there. Wonder Girls had a higher peak than Kara/Sistar in the earlier days. Sistar had amazing digitals and were consistently popular across the years
6: T-ara, despite their scandal which was proven to be false too late, no one can deny their impact
7: f(x)
8: Apink, to add on they are still going strong
9 - 13: Girl's Day/AOA/EXID/miss A/4Minute. Hard to rank these groups so I put them all around the same rank.
14 - The rest: Notable groups include Brown Eyed Girls/After School/Secret, and the rest etc etc
Quite spot on except Miss A which should be above others in 9-13. They had a huge debut + consistently do well.
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Ok this is how I rank it being as objective as I can
1: SNSD without a doubt
3 - 5: Three way tie between Kara/Wonder Girls/Sistar. Kara had a huge Japanese fanbase which give them a huge edge there. Wonder Girls had a higher peak than Kara/Sistar in the earlier days. Sistar had amazing digitals and were consistently popular across the years
6: T-ara, despite their scandal which was proven to be false too late, no one can deny their impact
7: f(x)
8: Apink, to add on they are still going strong
9 - 13: Girl's Day/AOA/EXID/miss A/4Minute. Hard to rank these groups so I put them all around the same rank.
14 - The rest: Notable groups include Brown Eyed Girls/After School/Secret, and the rest etc etc
Thank you for the notes. It’s crazy how many popular girls groups the 2nd gen had.
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Right? I was into KPOP back then in the very early years, probably like 2009 or 2010 ish so I kinda know most of the GGs fairly well? Even the more nugu ones like Nine Muses/Stellar/Spica (maybe not so the extremely nugus), and it's amazing to see how many diverse groups are there back then. It was the era whereby those GGs that I mentioned were what made their companies that they are now. Example:
- Sistar made Starship
- Secret (with B.A.P) made TS, but they fuck that up so screw TS
- T-ara literally is MBK's only successful group
- 4minute (with BEAST) made Cube
- AOA was FNC's first idol group (if you exclude bands like FT Island/CN Blue)
- EXID with Banana Culture
There were times whereby those lower ranked groups, actually rivaled top groups. T-ara once rivaled SNSD but then scandal happen. Sistar won MAMA Best Female GG twice. Girl's Day and AOA also once rivaled for the top 5 spot when the other groups were slightly more inactive during a certain period.
But nowadays it's like a lot of the groups are focused around the Big 3. Like for 3rd Gen, other than Big 3 Twice/BP/RV, followed by Mamamoo/Gfriend and only recently Oh My Girl, not many actually find that level of success. Momoland .... where are they now? 4th Gen is literally only Big 3 + IZ*ONE which is a Produce group, and (G)I-DLE. Everyone else objectively isn't as popular.
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Right? I was into KPOP back then in the very early years, probably like 2009 or 2010 ish so I kinda know most of the GGs fairly well? Even the more nugu ones like Nine Muses/Stellar/Spica (maybe not so the extremely nugus), and it's amazing to see how many diverse groups are there back then. It was the era whereby those GGs that I mentioned were what made their companies that they are now. Example:
- Sistar made Starship
- Secret (with B.A.P) made TS, but they fuck that up so screw TS
- T-ara literally is MBK's only successful group
- 4minute (with BEAST) made Cube
- AOA was FNC's first idol group (if you exclude bands like FT Island/CN Blue)
- EXID with Banana Culture
There were times whereby those lower ranked groups, actually rivaled top groups. T-ara once rivaled SNSD but then scandal happen. Sistar won MAMA Best Female GG twice. Girl's Day and AOA also once rivaled for the top 5 spot when the other groups were slightly more inactive during a certain period.
But nowadays it's like a lot of the groups are focused around the Big 3. Like for 3rd Gen, other than Big 3 Twice/BP/RV, followed by Mamamoo/Gfriend and only recently Oh My Girl, not many actually find that level of success. Momoland .... where are they now? 4th Gen is literally only Big 3 + IZ*ONE which is a Produce group, and (G)I-DLE. Everyone else objectively isn't as popular.
2nd generation always struck me as a gold rush period.
Where the idea of creating girl groups that could rival boy group peers on the kpop scene became a sort of industry rush to chase this new possibility, and the perceived financial windfall that promised.
Much like a newly established gold rush town. You have tons of different people rushing to the town to make their fortune. We had all these companies, many newly formed, rushing to get this action and possibility. And like a gold rush you had little bit of a wild west sort of atmosphere where anyone could come in and strike it rich.
It had an air of irresistible possibility.
For awhile, the town is seemingly prosperous with all manner of people working to make it. It has a boom for awhile. A few get rich.
But then most fail. The smaller players fail. The gamblers and small timers. Many lose everything or find their business in ruin or unsustainable.
The industry consolidates and the bigger players are the only ones left standing.
The sheen of "making it rich" meets the reality that making groups sustainable is extremely risky and difficult especially for small timers.
The sheen wears off and suddenly it's only the big timers that really take the big risks.
Everyone else works at the fringes. Doing small jobs and always in the shadow of the Big Companies.
It's not a perfect analogy. But I've always seen it that way.
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SNSD>>>>>>>>>>> the rest
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SNSD was the face of K-pop for most of 2nd gen (2009-2014), and are by far the most successful as a group and individually.
The rest of your top 5 makes sense although I would move KARA one up because they were absolutely huge in Japan (just look at their album sales, touring and general public recognition)
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