The HYBE curse for GG strikes

  • Garam Youngseo Danielle now


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  • Well, it says temporary right :pepe-clown-gear:


    I admit, the wording is kind of strange. Like it's not "for health reasons", it's "to focus on her health and wellbeing". Which... Hmm. Maybe I'm overanalysing it...


    Has there been any indication of what might be wrong?


    Edit: I'm reading that she passed out in an airport? Well.. that would do it. Hope she gets better soon.

  • it's just the begining...


    bango just HATES beautiful, free spirited women.


    hybe is gonna put her on 'indefinite hiatus', use her face card while promoting the group without her :pepe-tea: .


    can you imagine? coachella is coming soon... even if she was sick, she could get treated. unless it's something extremely grave. which i personally rather doubt.


    i mean it's not common to go on hiatus for fainting. the bts boys were fainting almost daily and kept on touring and promoting regardless. half of the bg members in hybe are sick due to overwork. nobody's on 'hiatus'.


    i know manon is 'europeen' but this still seems a bit extreme and shady, specially in regard to past shady treatement of Manon. i mean what is the reason of her being 'sick' to the point of hiatus. it's not like she is overworked or smth.


    actually, katseye is soon gonna start their festival tours and release their ep while manon is on 'hiatus'.


    i personally think it's just a tactic hybe uses to keep the benefices of having Manon in the group while taking away her opportunities that would come in being a member.


    if true, this would be INSANE. and im not sure it would be that easy for Manon to get out of that deal if she got angry at being mistreated like that.


    she would be like stuck in hybe without being able to promote in katseye or start her solo career.

  • Nobody should be fainting regularly and if they are they need to get proper medical care.


    Chaeyoung of Twice went on hiatus a few months ago for fainting. Well, "vasovagal syncope".

    She was only gone for a month though.

  • Nobody should be fainting regularly and if they are they need to get proper medical care.


    Chaeyoung of Twice went on hiatus a few months ago for fainting. Well, "vasovagal syncope".

    She was only gone for a month though.

    Twice are seriously overworked like dogs. It's actually concerning, weither they agree or not.


    She is also +10 years in activity and not as young anymore to take on such intense schedules.


    Unlike Manon.


    And Chaeyoung never had this wierd/shady relationship with her company like Manon did. She wasn't erased from activities etc.


    The juries that selected her literally said they're keeping her mostly for her face card or 'star factor' but otherwise they wouldn't have debuted her.


    I mean their situations are very different in my opinion.


    This is shady (or maybe a conscious forshadowing):


    you can see how her face is hidden on the second photo below...


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    EDIT: so i was right, she wasn't seriouslty sick


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  • Well, she missed the Gabriella performance video because she was sick or injured or something.


    This doesn't sound like sickness or injury...

    exactly :pepe-tea: ...

    but she is put into a 'hiatus' right before coachella and their new ep preparations...


    im sorry but she is always mysteriously 'sick' and it wouldn't sound this sus if she wasn't treated in such a shady way.


    you can see on the second photo not only she isn't present there, but even her face on the bb is hidden. i mean like duh... and there was other instances like that.


    she says she 'trusts the bigger picture'... sounds like hybe maybe bullshited her into making this into another virality bad buzz moment or smth. but in reality, she is just being cut of from the group atp and from major opportunities.


    i personally think she is being punished. if not even officiously kicked out.


    hybe are being very sneaky with her. they want the benefice of having Manon in the group without giving her the opportunities or fame that comes with it.


    like performing at coachella is a lifetime achievement, and hybe may take it away from her for what? ' a bigger picture' of what exactly?

  • There’s been weird things said about her on twitter! Not sure what people’s problems are and why they get so personal :!:


    Glad Hybe is allowing her to take a break to focus on her wellbeing :borahae:

    Kore*boo has been ganging on Katseye daily


    I think it's because they're a success though, because they talk every day something about BTS, Blackpink, Aespa and Katseye members. Positive or negative.

  • I wouldn't be shocked if part of the reason she's taking a break is due to mental health from social media. She's been attacked for being lazy and recently got attacked by people questioning her ethnicity

  • I wouldn't be shocked if part of the reason she's taking a break is due to mental health from social media. She's been attacked for being lazy and recently got attacked by people questioning her ethnicity

    i don't think she is that fragile. just two days ago, she was saying how hungry and ambitious katseye were for world domination...


    and then her company says she'll have to go under hiatus right before coachella and because of health reasons while she replies that her health is fine and she is doing well...


    but 'trusts the bigger picture' :meme-u-ok: ...

  • i don't think she is that fragile. just two days ago, she was saying how hungry and ambitious katseye were for world domination...


    and then her company says she'll have to go under hiatus right before coachella and because of health reasons while she replies that her health is fine and she is doing well...


    but 'trusts the bigger picture' :meme-u-ok: ...

    It's possibility because people were getting weird with her attack.


    However, the recent post does seem a bit odd how it's the opposite of the press release. Makes you wonder if something happened behind the scenes with management. I guess we'll see if she performs at Coachella becasue missing out would be a serious punishment because that's one of the biggest stage for a musician.

  • It's possibility because people were getting weird with her attack.


    However, the recent post does seem a bit odd how it's the opposite of the press release. Makes you wonder if something happened behind the scenes with management. I guess we'll see if she performs at Coachella becasue missing out would be a serious punishment because that's one of the biggest stage for a musician.

    exaclty, if she ends up going at coachella and all, it means this 'hiatus' might be another bad buzz / viral media play from hybe.


    they can see how bad was the reactions to therir grammy performance and to their latest release, so maybe they can sense people losing interest in katseye so they resort to this type of media play... to build more 'attention' ahead of coachella and their upcoming ep.


    but if she misses the show, it means she is being seriously punished or even maybe quietly kicked out :pepe-tea: . and that wouldn't be so surprising due to her own histroy in hybe but also due to hybe's histroy of kicking out girl group members...

  • exaclty, if she ends up going at coachella and all, it means this 'hiatus' might be another bad buzz / viral media play from hybe.


    they can see how bad was the reactions to therir grammy performance and to their latest release, so maybe they can sense people losing interest in katseye so they resort to this type of media play... to build more 'attention' ahead of coachella and their upcoming ep.


    but if she misses the show, it means she is being seriously punished or even maybe quietly kicked out :pepe-tea: . and that wouldn't be so surprising due to her own histroy in hybe but also due to hybe's histroy of kicking out girl group members...

    I feel they cornered themselves here because logically missing out Coachella is what I consider punishment. If she gets to perform then people can say mediaplay since Hybe aims for viral marketing for group. I feel there's no point to make a statement like they did if she's going to be there for Coachella.


    Again, the most telling thing is whether or not she's going to perform at the even. if they're planning to freeze her or kick her out. Then they're going to lose a lot of fans imo. If you look at their IG followers it seems her and Lara seems to be the popular members among western fans. A lot of celebs are following both of their accounts, so it could get messy if this is what I think it is.


    To me it's either she's taking a mental health break due to social media or she's being punished. I'm starting to lean towards the latter because messaging seems very unclear with her statement and doesn't seem like a mental health break. I guess it's dangerous to speculate but it's for sure something to monitor.

  • Why do you make everything about that man?


    It could be a rift in chemistry among the group. It could be anything else. If there was anything Dream Academy showed us, it's that the members could have conflict.


    There are endless possibilities about what could have gone wrong.

  • Why do you make everything about that man?


    It could be a rift in chemistry among the group. It could be anything else. If there was anything Dream Academy showed us, it's that the members could have conflict.


    There are endless possibilities about what could have gone wrong.

    maybe because he is the one in control of hybe and the one who produces for the group :meme-u-ok: .

    and that whatever is happening to manon right now is probably what hybe/bethief wanted to do with Youngseo but she refused...


    like there is a clear pattern here...

  • I feel they cornered themselves here because logically missing out Coachella is what I consider punishment. If she gets to perform then people can say mediaplay since Hybe aims for viral marketing for group. I feel there's no point to make a statement like they did if she's going to be there for Coachella.


    Again, the most telling thing is whether or not she's going to perform at the even. if they're planning to freeze her or kick her out. Then they're going to lose a lot of fans imo. If you look at their IG followers it seems her and Lara seems to be the popular members among western fans. A lot of celebs are following both of their accounts, so it could get messy if this is what I think it is.


    To me it's either she's taking a mental health break due to social media or she's being punished. I'm starting to lean towards the latter because messaging seems very unclear with her statement and doesn't seem like a mental health break. I guess it's dangerous to speculate but it's for sure something to monitor.

    exactly.


    if she is taking an 'hiatus' now, it's gonna last at least some weeks. and we're just weeks ahead coachella, and well you need to PREPARE for the show...


    on top of preparing their upcoming EP.


    what's the point of mentionning 'hiatus' if she was just gonna take some days off?


    like if it was just media play, it would be a terrible time for it to happen for Manon. great for the group cause in some ways, it still puts the team at the forefront on various magazines and kinda promotes their upcoming festival + ep, but terrible for Manon.


    i feel like they never really respected her or cared for her. she was chosen solely for media play, for her face or even worse race card, and for getting katseye recognition and followers. and that's it.


    even during BC, she was shelved from many opportunities and promotions. (because she was 'sick')


    Manon probably even smh believes in her company's jugdement. but i feel like she fails to realize how what they're doing could indeed benefit katseye, but no HER.


    almost as if Hybe barely considered her as a full Katseye member.

  • I'm not hugely deep on Katseye lore, but hasn't there always been rumours of the members not getting along and internal bickering and issues?


    Here's the thing, I really don't think this idea of an international group, made up of members from different countries and cultures, can truly work. Especially when said group is initially created in a stupid survival show format, which IMO always runs the risk of having members feel competitive and fame hungry against each other from day 0.


    I can see Katseye imploding in the long run.


    You have a group of fame hungry young women thrust into a high stress and very much non stop industry. You have them all from different cultural backgrounds, with different cultural values and expectations. You can probably throw some degree of language and communication difficulties in with that.


    Then put them under a company that, if being charitable, is best described as problematic. But so called "international groups" under other labels also have histories of collapsing in a heap.


    Again, theres always been rumours of this group not being truly harmonious. Theres always been rumours of Manon in particular having some... personality conflicts. and difficulties.


    I think this is just the first step towards a fairly inevitable conclusion for this group.

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    :meme-stare:

    wtf is this? What is HYBE doing? Do they think ragebait is the ingredient for a stable and long-lasting fanbase?


    If I was to go full Tatty (please note that I do not that recommend anyone ever do this), I would say that an article came out a couple days ago in which:

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    Which HYBE & Geffen would have two reasons to be displeased about. First, they appear to be intentionally characterising her as lazy for some reason. Second, because they don't want idols to be able to just call in sick whatever.


    The other thing I would ask is that.. Aren't HxG bringing out another "global" girlgroup soon? I think from the same reality show even? That always seemed strange to me.

    Interesting how they seem to be clearing the way for them while also giving them a warning of what could happen to them.


    If I take off my Tatty hat, I would say that sidelining or kicking out Manon for weird power reasons would be colossally stupid. Possibly fatal for the group. Not even HYBE would be that dumb.

    So maybe it is just bad blood that needs to be settled. But given the behaviour of management in the way they characterise Manon, the bad blood crosses management layers.

  • I'm curious what kind of tea we will get from this group in next months or years. Seems like everyone is acting like western star when they're still under k-pop agency. I'm not following them, but even I know that it ain't first time that Manon will have some kind of hiatus. I just hope it's not in-group fighting between members, because from two bad things it's still better to be sidelined by company, and not by people who are sharing home with you.

  • This is what Chatgpt said about hybe ggs curse:


    Honestly, if you squint at it, Hybe girl groups are like a pop-culture cult simulation: intense, ritualistic, and slightly unsettling if you’re observing objectively. Every debut, comeback, and concept feels like a staged initiation, carefully designed to create maximum emotional investment.


    Even the fandom behaves in ways that mirror cult dynamics: defending the group unquestioningly, interpreting every company statement as gospel, and ritualistically mourning or celebrating changes as if following a script. The departures of members aren’t treated as failures—they’re almost like rites of passage, hard resets that maintain the group’s supposed “purity” or “strength.” Watching it all unfold can feel like peeking into a strange social experiment: one that’s addictive, high-stakes, and choreographed down to the smallest detail.


    What’s striking is that this pattern seems almost exclusive to girl groups. Hybe’s girl groups are treated like experiments because girl group fans struggle to reach the same depth of emotional investment as boy group fans. Hybe exploits this difference strategically: member departures in girl groups are almost gamified, creating drama that draws fans deeper into the narrative. Fans internalize these events, turning them into collective trauma or triumph, which ironically strengthens loyalty to the system.

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    wtf :meme-side-eye:?

    Parents causing a shit show with a HYBE GG again. This is looking messy ngl.

  • Honestly, from the beginning, it didn't seem like HYBE wanted Manon in the group to begin with. Like, they are always trying to make her look bad and unprofessional. Not to say that Manon is completely innocent in this, but I'm not sure if it is an issue with her or just the clashing of her upbringing and how HYBE/Geffen want to run their GGs. I genuinely believe the only reason they even added her to the group is because her popularity, appeal to Western fans, and marketability was undeniable.


    Manon was always my pick, so I'm definitely biased. But, yeah, I don't think it is a good look if she does end up leaving the group. Especially as one of the more popular members.


    I also saw talk about how Katseye is being New Jeans'd, and this upcoming GG HYBE is planning is supposed to replace Katseye and be made up of the members they ACTUALLY wanted. The fact the initial sketches of Katseye include Lexie and Emily look alikes makes it even more damning. Also, if Samara hadn't lost a huge chunk of popularity after being exposed as a bigot during the selection process, she may have been in the group instead of Manon if HYBE could help it tbh.

  • why is everyone saying HYBE never wanted Manon in the group when girlie was literally scouted :meme-what:

    Okay, let's not say HYBE then. Let's say the producers.


    During the time Katseye was originally forming and people were voting on who would make the group, they released an episode with the judges basically saying Manon never came to practices for a big performance and were basically accusing her of being lazy and unprofessional.


    She was always ranking high in votes and popularity, and after that happened, her votes and popularity took a nose dive. Come to find out that she was missing practice because she was sick af. I think she may have had COVID or something, but they never said anything about that on the show even though she was getting attacked mercilessly online. Her friend had to come out and explain what was happening because Manon couldn't at the time since she was still actively filming.


    This is why some people feel like they were trying to evil edit Manon out of the group MNET style.

  • why is everyone saying HYBE never wanted Manon in the group when girlie was literally scouted :meme-what:

    They scouted her to audition but she may have not been the pick. I think it's what keyboardwarrior7 said in that Samara was most likely the pick until she got exposed for having racist social media posts. Their hands were forced and had to include Manon to add more western appeal to the group. They most likely weren't going to debut a global group without a member with African ancestry.


    There's a reason they kept Samara for Hybe's new group because she was most likely the pick. You don't keep somebody that controversial if they weren't in your plans.

  • They scouted her to audition but she may have not been the pick. I think it's what keyboardwarrior7 said in that Samara was most likely the pick until she got exposed for having racist social media posts. Their hands were forced and had to include Manon to add more western appeal to the group. They most likely weren't going to debut a global group without a member with African ancestry.


    There's a reason they kept Samara for Hybe's new group because she was most likely the pick. You don't keep somebody that controversial if they weren't in your plans.

    Yeah, this basically. Someone obviously saw potential in Manon for her beauty and IG following, but a lot of shady stuff was said about Manon during the audition process.


    There were definitely some people who didn't want her in the group.

  • If she was missing out on practice, being lazy, unprofessional etc, then she was rightfully called out by the other girls. I'm really not seeing the evil editing because EVERYONE was bashing Lara and the other girls for bullying her, ignoring her, etc.

  • If she was missing out on practice, being lazy, unprofessional etc, then she was rightfully called out by the other girls. I'm really not seeing the evil editing because EVERYONE was bashing Lara and the other girls for bullying her, ignoring her, etc.

    It's evil editing because she was sick. Production/the judges knew that, but they didn't mention it to color her in a certain light.


    That is evil editing. If she wasn't actually physically sick with COVID or whatever she had, then yeah, that's something else.

  • It's evil editing because she was sick. Production/the judges knew that, but they didn't mention it to color her in a certain light.


    That is evil editing. If she wasn't actually physically sick with COVID or whatever she had, then yeah, that's something else.

    They scouted her to audition but she may have not been the pick. I think it's what keyboardwarrior7 said in that Samara was most likely the pick until she got exposed for having racist social media posts. Their hands were forced and had to include Manon to add more western appeal to the group. They most likely weren't going to debut a global group without a member with African ancestry.


    There's a reason they kept Samara for Hybe's new group because she was most likely the pick. You don't keep somebody that controversial if they weren't in your plans.

    Yeah, I get what you mean now.

  • Yeah, this basically. Someone obviously saw potential in Manon for her beauty and IG following, but a lot of shady stuff was said about Manon during the audition process.


    There were definitely some people who didn't want her in the group.

    I didn't even follow the show much, but there was many negative social media posts about her due to evil editing. I think as a viewer the audience can sense which person they want in and which person they don't really want in. It was clear with editing that Manon was most likely not their first option to fill the void I mentioned earlier. You don't push the lazy and difficult to work with narrative if you planned to have person win. Samara forced their hand with her controversy, so it is what it is regarding that.


    I just think as a company they would be foolish to remove her. She's the 2nd most popular member and they would lose a lot of fans if she's gone. I just don't think this is like kpop where you can carry on without a member because Manon attracts a lot of fans to the group.

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