Are you ready for a real conversation about the worst Kpop group?

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    I don't think so, but I'm here to call them the worst anyway. Sorry, not sorry for what you're gonna read below.



    ALLDAY Project is the worst Kpop group I've seen in the past 20 years, and I've seen a LOT.


    To be honest, I don't care about their popularity and Charting, that's not surprising. Koreans are obsessed with rich and popular kids.


    My problem with them (I mean, other than Disney's favorite boy) is that no one can offer anything in this group. Not a single member is even an average singer or rapper. Bailey is a great dancer, but she still didn't create a good choreo for them or for herself. Like, her choreos couldn't be more basic. I say this even tho I think dancing in Kpop is one of the most overrated thing.


    The ILLIT girl is cute, but not a good vocalist, Whoochan is an okay rapper, and honestly, Annie has a really good vocal tone, but Teddy's producing skills kills everything that is good in this group. They sound like they're inhaling helium every day.💀



    I was never a fan of Teddy, but he was a pretty good songwriter back in the day, but just like YG he was never good at using the skills of his Idols.


    Just compare ADP with MEOVV. The skill level is day and night, but MEOVV doesn't have much better songs, it's just they're much better in general. They can level up a crap song and make it average. ADP can't do that.


    Anyway, I could rant all day, but no one is ready for this convo.



    Peace out. 🤣


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    Changed the title of the thread from “Are you reead for a real conversation about the worst Kpop group?” to “Are you ready for a real conversation about the worst Kpop group?”.
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    Disagree with some of your , but I will say they don’t have any standouts. I think the rebellious image of the group is the major selling point . The pre-debut hype for all of the members certainly helped but need to have at least decent music to keep interest and they seemed to have done that


    I agree when speaking about talent they seem to be behind other 5th gen groups. I was shocked that Bailey isn’t standing out while dancing due to her background. However, it makes you think if some are better as soloist or choreographer rather than being the star.


    I guess can’t be too critical because rookie groups and they’ll have many chances to improve

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    I know everyone says there's nothing exceptional about them, but are they noticably weak in any way?

    Weak? Yes.


    Noticeably? Not really.


    All there really is a major vocal weakness (which, yes thats VERY rich coming from a fearnot but ik what im talking about). But most people will overlook that since the group is hiphop based.


    That being said they are all mid dancers, as usual, apart from Bailey. ******* should be above average but his moves are sloppy so hes a decent idol dancer at best. Woochan is an okay rapper. Better than your average idol but not phenomal.


    Bailey is really the only standout talent within the group but like I've said in my other thread, she dulls her shine to blend in with her members.

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    Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

    I know everyone says there's nothing exceptional about them, but are they noticably weak in any way?

    Honestly, I don't think they're noticeably weak and more so slightly below average vocalist when compared to other groups. However, that doesn't matter because they were never supposed to be a vocal heavy group. I think they excel in performance and dancing. I think people need to realize not every group needs to be that strong vocally. I think we need to look at what their strengths are. Not many groups are comparable dancers and show the confidence they have on stage.


    Lastly, I think their main problem is success because higher expectations with strong chart performance. Plus, they have members that will cause a reaction. So, when you have those type of members it will cause people to be more critical. Also, they're a rookie group and not many rookie groups start out strong when it comes to singing and performance. At least they have performance part down, and hopefully they figure out how to improve vocals.

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    Despite the fact that I'm in between when it comes to ADP, I highly disagree with you. They are not the "worst" kpop group. If y'all think they are bad then I wonder what you think about my faves :skull:


    Anyways.


    Does the group meet my standards? No.


    Do I care that they have no average vocalist? No.


    But will I, without hesitation, shit on ******* every chance I get? YES!

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    Problem with Allday is the chaebol's granddaughter. My mom is like 90 years old and even she knows who Annie is, and she hasnt listened to Kpop since Bigbang's debut. Having her in the group is like having the daughter of Apple/Amazon/Nvidia/Tesla/Google in the group - The neponess is on a galactic scale, which makes it impossible to accept their achievements as anything other than payola.

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    It's David, he has a love-hate relationship with Teddy and YG

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    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

    Problem with Allday is the chaebol's granddaughter. My mom is like 90 years old and even she knows who Annie is, and she hasnt listened to Kpop since Bigbang's debut. Having her in the group is like having the daughter of Apple/Amazon/Nvidia/Tesla/Google in the group - The neponess is on a galactic scale, which makes it impossible to accept their achievements as anything other than payola.

    This only matters if you're constantly pocket-watching idols and engaging in fanwars about achievements and charts. It reminds me of the whole "BLACKPINK is privileged because they came from a big company while BTS is the underdog from a small company, so BTS is more impressive" argument. For the longest time, this was an extremely HEATED topic on AKP. During pandemic lockdown nights, folks would lose sleep over this. One of my core memories as a new moderator at the time. ^^


    Everyone else accepts the fact that K-pop is full of nepotism and chaebols.

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    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

    Problem with Allday is the chaebol's granddaughter. My mom is like 90 years old and even she knows who Annie is, and she hasnt listened to Kpop since Bigbang's debut. Having her in the group is like having the daughter of Apple/Amazon/Nvidia/Tesla/Google in the group - The neponess is on a galactic scale, which makes it impossible to accept their achievements as anything other than payola.

    Your mom is 90?


    Then you are? Like 60?

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    I like ADP songs but as a group they don't work well on papers


    Youngseo to me doesn't really fit the group when they are on stage, the 4 orher members have a much more strong and sharp presence, she kinda disappear on stage next to them

    She would have fit better in a gg


    Annie have such a cool and addictive vocal tone and i personally think that she's the one who fit ADP concept the most


    Bailey is such an incredible dancer but because she have to do more "idol" dance she doesn't really shine and vocally she's really really weak


    Woochan is a good rapper, but like youngseo i feel like he kinda get overwhelm on stage next to tarzan, bailey and annie


    And tbh tarzan i don't see much in him, he doesn't seem to have any talent in vocal, dance or rap


    Individually they all seems like great addition to a group

    But put together i feel like it doesn't work as a group because they don't complete each other


    They have no stand out vocalist that can hide the group vocal weakness

    They have no dancer that can match bailey dance


    I feel like TEDDY probably put this group together thinking he was creating a sort of avenger with each individual having a great recognition in the industry and could be good idols

    But put together as a group it doesn't work perfectly yet

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    Quote from StanGIDLE

    Disagree with some of your , but I will say they don’t have any standouts. I think the rebellious image of the group is the major selling point . The pre-debut hype for all of the members certainly helped but need to have at least decent music to keep interest and they seemed to have done that


    I agree when speaking about talent they seem to be behind other 5th gen groups. I was shocked that Bailey isn’t standing out while dancing due to her background. However, it makes you think if some are better as soloist or choreographer rather than being the star.


    I guess can’t be too critical because rookie groups and they’ll have many chances to improve

    Okay, but this "They're a Rookie group" argument is only acceptable if they are actual rookies, but they are not.


    I mean, other than Disney Boy and Annie the others are in this industry for years, but I get your point about the rest. Also, I could name multiple rookie groups that could easily outdo ADP in anything that's actually important. Vocals and rap.


    I'm not saying they're a lost cause SKILL WISE, btw, because as I already said this many times, Annie has a really good tone, and maybe even Bailey, but without vocal training it means nothing, and just like YG, Teddy is not someone who develop Idols. They "buy" finished products.


    ADP is a finished product popularity wise. We all know but not many of us want to accept it, if an Idol is popular enough, people won't care about anything else.

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    Quote from monalisalove

    You know what's funny about this group? You guys hate them so much, but will keep checking their music just to say "see? Not good!" When the reality is just one! If you don't like something, just ignore, you don't need to sound like a bitter ex who can't forget the past.

    And ADP music is good.

    You know what's funny? I don't hate them, and their fans think I do, because I'm not obsessed with popularity and below-average music. Why would I hate them? I don't even know them.


    How many times I told you, listening to music is not only a hobby for me, it's my job. Trust me, ADP is not the only trash I'm listening to, sadly.


    At least I write a proper review about everything, and you know that. I could just say: "Trash". Now, that would be what you're talking about.


    Critical thinking in Kpop is DEAD!


    Kpop fans always calls everyone a hater if they don't like the songs of their faves, but the fact it, if ADP is a nugu group everyone would call their songs trash, because it's not like they're making original songs, this is the Tesco version of 2nd gen YG.


    i-dle literally released their own 2nd gen music and many people called it crap.


    You like their music, I get it, good for you, but their songs are not good, at least not for me. My bar is too high.

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    If you mean Le Sserafim, they're not even close to being the worst, even if we say Sasuke's wife is a weak vocalist. 😅


    I said this many times, LSF is not the only HYBE group where the members are actually decent singers, they just can't sing their shitty HYBE music because it's too hard for them.


    You and others have a good point about vocals, tho, because ADP is not a vocal group, not even Kpop if I have to be fair, they're a Hip Hop group.


    So, let's ask this question then: Are there any good rapper in the group? No. The only one I can mention is Woochan. The rest is basically just there to fill space.


    BTW, you said Disney Boy is sloppy in dance, and I agree, but isn't he a contemporary dancer or something?

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    Quote from nevermindmejin

    Definitely not the worst group.


    But.. getting daesang at few months old made people have abnormally high expectations of the group. So its logical for people to be more critical of this group compared to other rookies.

    That's not a real Daesang. That Award is one year old.😂


    Also, I don't care about Awards anyway, it has nothing to do with my opinion.


    Quote from BlackpinkHouse

    Problem with Allday is the chaebol's granddaughter. My mom is like 90 years old and even she knows who Annie is, and she hasnt listened to Kpop since Bigbang's debut. Having her in the group is like having the daughter of Apple/Amazon/Nvidia/Tesla/Google in the group - The neponess is on a galactic scale, which makes it impossible to accept their achievements as anything other than payola.

    Actually, the problem isn't the chaebol. Someone already asked this questiin a couple of weeks or even months ago on AKP. "Do we mid if rich kids debut as Idols?"


    And I said, I don't care if they're talented.


    Many people use her as an argument for their success or to shade them, but she's not the reason why ADP is a massive flop music quality wise.


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    It's David, he has a love-hate relationship with Teddy and YG

    You're correct about the first part, I'm David, and you're wrong about the 2nd part. I don't have a love-hate relationship with Teddy and YG, because I don't love them, and I never loved them for a second. I loved YG artists, not them.😂

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    Quote from David33

    So, let's ask this question then: Are there any good rapper in the group? No. The only one I can mention is Woochan. The rest is basically just there to fill space.

    Woochan is better than your average kpop rapper. He gets extra points for playing a role in production.

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    BTW, you said Disney Boy is sloppy in dance, and I agree, but isn't he a contemporary dancer or something?

    Yeah, he was a contemporary dancer. Don't know and don't care if he still practices it but I'm not saying he's a bad dancer. Technically, he's one of the strongest in the group. BUT, he's not accustomed to the execution style of idol dancing. Thats what makes his dancing sloppy.

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    Quote from CaraFIMIE

    Woochan is better than your average kpop rapper. He gets extra points for playing a role in production.

    Yeah, he was a contemporary dancer. Don't know and don't care if he still practices it but I'm not saying he's a bad dancer. Technically, he's one of the strongest in the group. BUT, he's not accustomed to the execution style of idol dancing. Thats what makes his dancing sloppy.

    I think Tarzan and Bailey played big roles in creating one more time.


    I do agree about Tarzan I think he needs time to get used to this style of dance.

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    hybe has put out amongst the WORST kpop groups ever... specially under the guiding of bango :pepe-tea:

    and specially their ggs...


    on main reason is because they are sexist and only care about looks or hotness, but they don't care about vocals at all. they just throw one vocalist in a bunch of girls and call it a day  :facepalm:


    they follow a japanese typa of model which is attrocious and then they put all their focus on dancing and being pretty.


    but their visuals don't even stand out, it's pretty MEH because mostly male gazed focused... :rolleyes:


    CHOPS


    in contrast all adp member can hold their notes, sound nice and are good if not exellent in their roles. thing is i think it's a more rap focused group so it makes sense that it's filled with rappers.


    i do agree that adding another vocalist may have been a great addition tho. someone like gawon for example. but they can always collab uh.

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    Quote from CaraFIMIE

    Woochan is better than your average kpop rapper. He gets extra points for playing a role in production.


    Yeah, he was a contemporary dancer. Don't know and don't care if he still practices it but I'm not saying he's a bad dancer. Technically, he's one of the strongest in the group. BUT, he's not accustomed to the execution style of idol dancing. Thats what makes his dancing sloppy.

    And this is why Woochan should've stick to being a soloist. Like, don't wanna compare, but YPS, Badvillain or XG can eat them all alive. ADP is lucky neither of them are overhyped.


    You said the same about Bailey too, this is why Lia Kim said, she might be a better dancer in general than Kpop Idols, but she's not as good on stage. It's a different thing. But as I said, most people don't care, popularity carries many groups but most of them are finished after 5 years or so.

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