Mnet deserve to be canceled for good! The way they snubbed two of the biggest female soloists is the most disrespectful thing ever!

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    I'm not even kidding. I never liked MAMA or MMA, both are crap, and it's about popularity anyway, but back in the day, when a popular artist won, you knew they deserve it, because they actually released a good song or album etc!


    But now, it's enough to be popular on Tiktok!



    Here are the full list of the winners: 2024 MAMA Awards - Wikipedia



    I mean, what the hell was this IU and Taeyeon snub? IU only won "The Best Female Artist" and some stupid fan vote that 19 other Idol won as well, but Taeyeon didn't win a single Award!


    How can you give IU "The Best Female Artist" Award, and nominate Taeyeon for that, but don't nominate them for AOTY, and don't give IU the SOTY, the Best MV and Best Vocal?


    Don't get me wrong, I love Aespa, but there's no way in hell, Supernova is a better song than Love Wins All, and Armageddon is a better MV than LWA! Absolute JOKE!


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    The Best Vocal should've given to Taeyeon or IU, not only because they did a fantastic performance, but their songs ruled the charts for months! But then again, MAMA is now an ATTENDANCE Award! Also, Teayeon should've won the Best OST as well, but everyone knew Crush will win, because Queen of Tears was a massive success!


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    And I didn't mention the other winners, like:



    I love Gidle, but come on: RV is clear or Davichi!


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    I don't even understand this list, like at all: No, I wouldn't nominate my fave Hwasa, Sunmi or Yuqi either!


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    To put simply: PAY TO WIN AWARD!


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    The actual list should've been like this:


    Young Posse

    Babymonster

    Qwer

    Unis

    MEOVV

    ILLIT


    Youngji and DO were robbed, like for real! At least give them one of these!


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    I will say one thing, before fandoms losing their shit. Mnet and Melon HAVE TO rename these Award categories to:


    "Best Charting Dance Performance", "Best Charting Vocal Performance", "Best Charting Album and Song", because if they do that, no one would complain!

  • David33

    Changed the title of the thread from “Mnet deserve to be canceled for good! The way they snubbed two of the biggest female soloists!” to “Mnet deserve to be canceled for good! The way they snubbed two of the biggest female soloists is the most disrespectful thing ever!”.
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    LWA may have some good storyline but it is absolutely nowhere near Armageddon MV!

    Armageddon MV is definitely best MV of the year! Just watch some video editor’s reactions to Armageddon MV you will be shocked how many details you have missed while watching the MV!

    Armageddon MV is a masterpiece and best MV of the year!!!


    When it comes to songs it is subjective! I love Love Wins All, but for me Supernova is better!

    And Supernova had much bigger impact than Loves Wins All so it deserved to win SOTY

    When it comes to Best vocal performance group RED Velvet got almost 0 chances to win because G idle was leading massively in that category so they won even based on predictions

    I think Byeon Woo Seok should’ve won best OST(Sudden Shower)

    But there were 100% judge based awards such as best choreography where judges gave the award to Supernova, and I personally think they should’ve given it to Taemin’s Guilty

  • AllKill VIP
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    MAMA being MAMA.


    Their priorities are simply, ticket sales & views.


    So larger fandoms and attendance.


    They are just jumped up version of the TV Music shows.


    I am glad that IU continues to ignore them and GD continues to diss them.

    Not that it matters to their shamelessness.

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    Quote from monalisalove

    The only award I agree was wrong is the ArOTY that should've gone to Aespa, the others were ok like they didn't give to others out of nowhere. They had the results to win so nope, MAMA shouldn't be cancelled over 2 soloists not winning over a group that had a way bigger year than them impact wise.

    They didn't have bigger impact, because both IU and Taeyeon ruled the charts for MONTHS! And IU is literally THE ONLY Kpop artist who debuted #1 on every K-chart in 2024, and STILL has the most PAK, ergo she charted longer than anyone else with 3 SONGS from the same album, btw! No one else did that!


    Not to mention, her album charted even in the west, and her concert was sold-out faster than BTS and BP, and it was 100% sold-out!


    The fact is that MAMA is an attendance Award now, that's why IU and Taeyeon didn't win! I'm pretty sure, everyone who won the biggest awards was there!

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    Armageddon was a VFX masterpiece, while Love Wins All was a director/cinematography masterpiece with hardly any VFX, with top-notch acting and story you can only see in movies! HUGE difference!


    Not to mention, LWA is the only Kpop song that can stand on its own without the MV or without the song! No other Kpop song can do that this year, and I'm saying this while Armageddon is one of my fave song this year!


    You can watch actual directors and cinematographers reacting to IU's Love Wins All, so why does it matter what some random YT reactor says. The whole Youtube were crying watching her MV.😂


    Again, Supernova didn't have bigger impact, not in Korea, at least! LWA is still the longest charting #1 in 2024, and the only song that debuted #1! So, how can you say Supernova is bigger? Even UL wise there's not much difference, and the fact that LWA is a ballad, while the other is a typical pop song, says a lot!


    If IU doesn't cancel the Year-End Award Shows because of her health reasons, she would've won more.


    You'll see she's gonna win everything at MELON, even tho she won't go there either. MAMA loves to disrespect artists, but IU is Melon's daughter, so I will be surprised if she's not gonna win AOTY, SOTY, ArOTY and Best MV! Also, the Song Writer Award as well.

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    So if they go by charts, that makes you mad

    If they choose by subjective standards like quality... That also makes you mad :pepewhat:

    No, hon, MAMA was NEVER about quality! It was always about POPULARITY! Even when my faves won! The only difference is that back in the days pretty much every nominated Idol was quality!


    The real problem is that people keep mentioning that: "Oh they charted better." Yeah, sure, but don't call the main categories "THE BEST", call it what it is: "MOST POPULAR" and I won't say a thing!


    Mnet disrespected so many Idols and groups, even your faves, yet people always forget it if Mnet give some charity award to their faves. Half of my faves won at MAMA this year, do you see me clapping? No!

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    I think large-scale shows like these feel more like a festival for K-pop fans and listeners rather than just an awards ceremony. Artists share a common atmosphere, watch each other’s performances, deliver special stages, and perform in front of a massive crowd. It’s almost like a festival culture in a way.

    As for the awards themselves, I agree with what you said — it’s definitely more about popularity and fan hype rather than actual quality. However, there’s also this: the K-pop industry thrives on its fandoms and niche audiences, which is what makes it such a powerful industry. What I mean is that fans of big groups like BLINKs, ARMYs, or similar fanbases are the ones who follow these award shows the most. A ballad singer or a soloist, for instance, wouldn’t even focus on who’s winning these awards or care much about them.

    So, while I agree with your thoughts on how awards are given, I don’t place much importance on these criteria or the awards themselves. To me, it feels like a natural part of the industry.

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    Quote from David33

    Again, Supernova didn't have bigger impact, not in Korea, at least! LWA is still the longest charting #1 in 2024, and the only song that debuted #1! So, how can you say Supernova is bigger? Even UL wise there's not much difference, and the fact that LWA is a ballad, while the other is a typical pop song, says a lot!

    Stop, you're taking your information from the wrong place or you aren't reading properly again.


    Supernova is the longest charting #1 song in history on Melon, Genie, Circle and Vibe.


    On Melon, LWA charted at #1 for 4 weeks and Supernova at #1 for 15 weeks. What are you talking about?

  • AllKill VIP
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    Anybody who actually thought any MV release this year had a chance against Armageddon is actually really really really delusional.


    LWA is a great MV but actually brought nothing interesting, the only good thing about the MV was the storyline


    In contrary Armaggeddon really brought something interesting to analysis.


    The mix between the AI artwork, 3D work, the VFX, the different plans and scenes use to make the transition between each portion of the MV smooth, the styling etc... Everything came together ( the visual teams, the styling teams, etc...) perfectly to create a true masterpiece that we would still mention in future years


    Acting like Aespa doesn't deserve this award is peak delusion when tons of MV director have react to Armaggeddon and were left speechless after it


    It says a lot about the quality of the MV

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    Quote from SooYoung

    AI artwork, 3D work, the VFX

    SM's specialty of course.


    An award-winning MV needs to have amazing and ACTUAL storytelling but Armageddon only utilizes editing and AI to convey a story.


    I love AESPA and Armageddon but Armageddon should not have won best mv but ofc it doesn't matter nothing can be changed and kpop has progressed to a point where most people don't care about true artistry.


    Oh well.

  • AllKill VIP
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    Storytellint have nothing to do with MV


    MV is here to be a visual representation of the concept of the group and it highlight the work of the team behind the idols


    Actually funny of you talking about true artistry while spitting on the MV who try to highlight the most various type of artist going through small brand for their outfit to vfx artist, makeup artist, 3d artist, ai artist etc...


    I have a lot of respect for IU as an artist but love wins all was a boring and generic mv in term of visual directing, transition, editing etc ....

    It looked like the type of MV any other solo artist like seo in guk or kwill could have done


    Armaggedon was by far the best MV release this year and there's no debate about it

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    What emotion does Armageddon conceptualize?

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    It uses 2 or 3 scenes of AI in MV, which equals to 2-3 seconds of the clip!


    Love Wins all also has those vfx effects and such…


    If you don’t understand Aespa lore then it doesn’t mean that there isn’t storyline and to win the best mv it doesn’t necessarily need to have a storyline! It says best MV which means mv with best quality and Armageddon is just much better than love wins all!

    Tell any videographer or mv editor which mv is better and the answer is obvious!

    And Armageddon is an artistry! Cuz they are pushing boundaries of creating more insane mvs using all kinds of technology! Those ai scenes are also done by AI artists who are credited at the end of the video!

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