Why is there suddenly so much beef between LE SSERAFIM and aespa fans here recently?

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same age range vying for the same demographic, I agree it’s NJ & IVE at the top so it only makes sense for aespa & lsfrm to jockey for the 3rd spot

I think aespa fans are mad LS is on billboard 100 and LS fans are mad Aespa is charting on melon.

Aespa fans mad LS is not limited to Asia

LS fans are mad Aespa is popular in Asia

IVE? At the top? feels like more like a tier 2 group.

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That's a lie. You yourself are guilty of several very emotional responses to people's opinions on their relative popularity

That thread is muuuuuch less toxic than most of your threads Yama!

I haven’t seen someone insulting each other in that thread, everybody is giving their info!

And honestly someone brought to that thread Twitter beef between mys and fearnots! But that didn’t affect much rational thinking of the users!

Yama is getting confused with Twitter and Allkpop I haven’t seen any Lsf stans or Mys going at it tbh I don’t even think Lsf has a massive fan base on here, same as Ive it’s more Multi stans imo compared to twitter at least

It makes sense with new jeans not being top in either western nor Korean this year there is a vacuum.

There will always be negativity when fighting for a top spot. There were only fighting for second place till last year which was nearly as interesting. All fandom start to behave this way under these circumstance. Observed it many times over the years.

IDk. Is like in twitter, when Mys make fun of LSF because they can't sing shit?

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That's a lie. You yourself are guilty of several very emotional responses to people's opinions on their relative popularity.

They're still the second most popular girl group in the industry behind only NewJeans. Don't get it twisted.

Well, in that case they are one of the most overrated kpop groups in history.

sorry i kinda think i’ve isn’t no 2 for sure, i mean heya didn’t even get a win. i think it’s a fight between aespa and lsfm rn for that spot w performance vs vocals. lsfm can perform way better than aespa but aespa can actually sing

aespa are actually artists and perfomers while the other group is just good at acting being one .

aespa's success on spotify is organic, the other group can thank scootify .

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more like everyone vs Hybe and I'm here for it, f them.

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Creative writing should be posted on the lounge.

Thank you for your cooperation.

I mean it was merely a fact. And I’ve observed it as well many times when BTS was so obviously #1 the other BG fandoms started to quiet down a lot. Where as it was a dog fighting in 2017 or so

When there is no undisputed #1 fanwars will start that’s how it’s always been.

It’s merely a fact there is no uncontested top group this year. Whether you admit it or not.

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Which one?

That's way less entertaining to argue about. Music is subjective. Relative chart performance and metrics can be

IVE

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You think they're overrated? Really?

I think they're just rated.

I have noticed a concerning ambivalence from their stans lately.

I have my theories as to why.

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Is not IVE popular just because of their members from the Produce shows?

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Initially. But they serve great music that synergized well with the public's tastes. Well historically at least.

Well I doubt they will be able to keep up their popularity. They hade a good debut year, but as I say, I think it's mostly because the former produce/Izone girls and not really the group.

I mean if we're talking Korea only in 2024, it's obviously Aespa. Though it does feel like all it took was 1 mega hit from Aespa for everyone to suddenly forget IVE exists. For LSF they clearly aren't dependent on SK success nor are they targeting that market, so idk why their fans would care about that. Like babymonster not doing well in SK doesn't mean much, but if they started dropping in Indonesia I'd be worried lol.

Aespa and MYs should have love for LSF and HYBE in general. They were having the 3-4 year old GG fall off when all of a sudden they got the massive bump from Big Boi Bang.

All that "can you crush Aespa" stuff skyrocketed them back to the top with the GP. They've been the biggest winner from the HYBE civil war haha.

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the way you just outed yourself is not even funny

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maybe ive can hit 4m if they have 1 more comeback

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Aespa and MYs should have love for LSF and HYBE in general. They were having the 3-4 year old GG fall off when all of a sudden they got the massive bump from Big Boi Bang.

All that "can you crush Aespa" stuff skyrocketed them back to the top with the GP. They've been the biggest winner from the HYBE civil war haha.

That’s a lie!

Aespa was having their biggest international hit drama in 2023!

Now Drama is their most streamed song!

And drama reached number 2 Melon daily chart

And Drama now has almost same digital points as Perfect Night on Circle chart

Or Spicy their another 2023 release reached Number 1 melon! It is much bigger than Drama and is bigger than Perfect Night in Korea for Sure!

So where they were falling?

Cause we MYs don't play about aespa

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Which one?

That's way less entertaining to argue about. Music is subjective. Relative chart performance and metrics can be parsed and debated.

I hope you get the grand prize for the next Aspiring Fiction Writers Competition. A few more rewrites and you'll have a story that allows for at least a little suspension of disbelief.

You’re incapable of any objectivity so like it’s alright you can live in the delusional world where you can continue to blv new jeans never suffered any set back and that didn’t have other consequence

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Are you going for the young adult genre or will it be a darker grittier tale? Maybe high fantasy perhaps? Please tag me when your creative writing is finally completed. It's a bit rough around the edges, and the plot is ludicrous, but I'm confident you'll smooth it out over time.

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