LE SSERAFIM Crazy scores the highest debut for a kpop girlgroup in 2024 on Spotify ( #61 with 2.03M streams, unfiltered 2.55M) - Mini debuts with 6.18M streams

Happy for them.

In before the 'hybe payola' accusations

idc if it's payola or not payola song is mega bop and needs to top the charts

let's go

interesting

is their song all english? I think there are only 2 or 3 sentences.

Have to add it is a bizarre MV, but if it works, then it works.

Congrats! 🥂

Genuine question!

They have entered Spotify US at 66 but didn’t enter any US city? Is that right? How does it work?

Congrats! I’m not a massive fan of the TT but the album is great and with so many people trolling them constantly they deserve a win

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Congrats! 🥂

Genuine question!

They have entered Spotify US at 66 but didn’t enter any US city? Is that right? How does it work?

It has entered Spotify US chart.

For city chart, its weekly so of course its not there.

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It has entered Spotify US chart.

For city chart, its weekly so of course its not there.

Oh thank you I didn’t know that!

Even in my thread about Jimin nobody said about this

I'm thinking this is huge.

They own Japan.

If they can own US, thats the #1 and #2 biggest markets.

The Japanese market is 10 times the Korean Market. The US market is 20 times the Korean market. Combined its 30 to 1, so roughly Korea is 3.2% of the total US/Japanese/Korea markets combined. Thats not including any other countries.

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Oh thank you I didn’t know that!

Even in my thread about Jimin nobody said about this

I didn't know as well. Just found out after the solos/akgaes spread about the city charts

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Well doesn't change the fact

New jean " how sweet" and Twice "i got you" got way more playlisting than this and they didn't do as well

Playlisting is a huge push to make great achievement but it doesn't do all the job neither

It seems that hybe payola did well with newjeans. Tokkis should be happy

Paradis' post above said that crazy did better on Spotify US than new woman. I'm terrible with numbers and charts and don't know where to find it. Do you know what was the first day reach for new woman? I'm not dragging anyone, I'm just curious

The bar for playlisting in K-pop is really in hell, 20M is almost a useless reach and barely makes a diference. Especially because, except for K-pop focused playlists, most of the time K-pop songs are in the bottom of them.

What really helps to push a K-pop song nowdays is autoplay. There are songs mentioned with lower playlisting than LSRF doing higher numbers with the help of Autoplay and people overlook.

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It seems that hybe payola did well with newjeans. Tokkis should be happy

Paradis' post above said that crazy did better on Spotify US than new woman. I'm terrible with numbers and charts and don't know where to find it. Do you know what was the first day reach for new woman? I'm not dragging anyone, I'm just curious

New Woman had 126m on its first day

These numbers did suprise me a bit to be honest, especially the U.S. number. Their New Music Friday placement is bad even for kpop standards (it's at 71 while I noticed fiftyfifty is placed at 56) so the playlisting reach won't help them much. Just to go beyond the autoplay answer many will instantly resort to, I have to admit that all the discourse of kpop fans these last months has even influenced me as a bystander into thinking they would see a downturn in streams. Perhaps somehow it actually increased the anticipation for the group.

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New Woman had 126m on its first day

Thank you!!

congrats

More magic from Hybe and Spotify.

shaman vs hybeola the saga. Crongratz !

Crazy US streams debut numbers were almost 600k omg

Crazy, but this data solidify them as the current biggest global 4th gen girl group, congrats LSF

It makes sense to me. Economy is tough now and more fans - FN and casuals are streaming instead of buying physical immediately or at all etc. The album is a bop and perfect for gym, work, drive too lol.

HYBE moving their payola from nj to LSFM will be super funny lol.

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HYBE moving their payola from nj to LSFM will be super funny lol.

Thinking hybe never gave payola to ssera is funnier .They are just on mega boost right now .

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HYBE moving their payola from nj to LSFM will be super funny lol.

How scary would it be? I can't imagine once Le Sserafim gets all Hybe payola and supports. They still haven't entered Today's Top Hits yet, which boost monthly listeners.

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What payola? They pulled similar numbers to easy 2nd day which was full 24hrs. And playlists don't matter the way u think it does.

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Easy deserved it but Payola cuz this song sounds like ass and I refuse to blv ppl are streaming it

I assume day 2 will be higher as they didn't have a full 24 hr tracking on day 1.

If it goes up day 3 and 4 by a lot, they are using autoplay this time. imo they haven't before, but this time they will.

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What payola? They pulled similar numbers to easy 2nd day which was full 24hrs. And playlists don't matter the way u think it does.

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What's funny it's how sweet have way more playlisting and didn't do this numbers, specially in the us where they were above any other gg

I wonder if it is a distribution issue. Or is it that international Kpop fans are less likely to buy physical media these days?

Is high streaming/mediocre album sales better or high album sales/mediocre streaming better?

I'm a bit worried they are going to run LSFM to the ground through touring if the physical sales don't improve.

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How scary would it be? I can't imagine once Le Sserafim gets all Hybe payola and supports. They still haven't entered Today's Top Hits yet, which boost monthly listeners.

Playlist will only boost monthly listners not that much streams so if anything le serrafim needs autoplay which will increase their streams plus its fair game since newjeans and magnetic had autoplay.

honestly, it's so stupid to accuse LSF of payola (beyond what literally any top group gets) just cause they're the current punching bag, their Spotify streams have always been excellent, even for unpromoted bsides. They've clearly got a sizeable Western fandom/casual listeners who listen to their music.

I'm not even a huge fan but I'm constantly defending them these days cause the typical suspects are trying to drag them through the mud everywhere.

absolutely deserved and i don’t think they’ve peaked with streams yet.

the mini is so fucking good and consistent. it’s going to go platinum in my gym sessions.

applause by lady gaga has some serious competition