NewJeans Supernatural and Right Now fail to enter spotify global, this is the end guys

I wasn't expecting these new NJ songs to charts, so it's not a surprise to me or anyone.

Now, let's talk analysis of why Spotify Payola is needed for the K-pop industry to survive as long as it's legally done.

The Spotify Global 200th place cutoff is at 1.3m, without Payola, K-pop groups barely will strike the surface of top 10 on Spotify 50 from now on. There are just barely two K-pop groups here, it's much worse than last year. Now, how can these group get their songs popular without payola? Not good, the industry is stagnating as predicted. The western industry payola is eating the K-pop industry currently. The top song is pulling 12m per day, it's...it's crazy, friends.

how they are doing on japan chart ? i mean its a japan release so we should focus on japan chart

MHJ sold 28.4K albums Day 1.

As a comparison Misamo sold 94k.

Its also almost or is an empty house in Japan too.

It’s a Japanese debut to be fair… at least they can chart in Korea unlike Nayeon with her flop ahh cb. Or did onces forget about that already?

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Dude is disturbed and so is the same group of people circle jerking these posts

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All of his threads would flop if YamaChwan stopped fighting in his threads

Can’t wait until yama gets up after a crazy friday night of extended speed walking and this thread explodes to reach double digit pages with nj and mamamoo and twice all getting blown up to shiz from the same six users rehashing the same toddler fights for the 142625th time

Me when I read first post,

they could do numbers on markets like the US only groups like bts, blackpink or twice could

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I decided after another once continue being delulu asslickin army and yapping about organic hits going viral.

I just realize jyp himself is kinda like a leech, it's about yg jyp collaboration back then, now the ceo attaching himself to hybe. Like ceo like fan ig

If we are talking strictly about Spotify just BTS and BP can do bigger numbers with their groups and solo stuff.

i think you have other things to worry about rather than newjeans. i’m just saying

Min antagonized the fandoms most likely to support them

Kpop isn't big enough in the West to get anywhere without a massive fandom like BP, BTS or Twice. The way to build one is to get support from Kpop stans but she squandered a lot of that.

If you're that stupid, you have no sense.

Here to remind OP HYBE has moved on to their girl groups' labels that haven't backstabbed them. They will go all out for Illit, Le Sserafim, and Katseye. I'll look out for your thread when it happens.

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i think you have other things to worry about rather than newjeans. i’m just saying

I think they don't, waiting for NJ numbers is their fave part in kpop from what I'm seeing

Well is over bc that was supposed to help how sweet on Spotify and it did the opposite

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MHJ sold 28.4K albums Day 1.

As a comparison Misamo sold 94k.

Its also almost or is an empty house in Japan too.

Get Up EP sold 65k on Oricon, so any single album will sell much better.

Now I wonder if MHJ doing Hi-touch fan signs yet.

Twice is huge in Japan, no need to compare with any 4th gen girl groups.

1.Twice

2.LSF

3.IVE

4.Kep1er

5.NewJeans (ongoing)

We will have aespa data soon once they had their Japanese debut.

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Get Up EP sold 65k on Oricon, so any single album will sell much better.

Now I wonder if MHJ doing Hi-touch fan signs yet.

Twice is huge in Japan, no need to compare with any 4th gen girl groups.

1.Twice

2.LSF

3.IVE

4.Kep1er

5.NewJeans (ongoing)

We will have aespa data soon once they had their Japanese debut soon.

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I not sure if that is the album that MHJ pre-sold 100k based on expected sales for fan signs in the future in Japan or it was another one.

Why didn't you do any thread about Nayeon's comeback, OP? Wasn't you excited? Didn't you like it?

HYBE has Illit, Le Sserafim and Katseye in the same quarter. Bang PD is geeking to give them all the success to make Q3 successful.

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HYBE has Illit, Le Sserafim and Katseye in the same quarter. Bang PD is geeking to give them all the success to make Q3 successful.

so you’re saying that if the groups have successful comebacks it will be solely based on hybe and on chairman bang pd other than the actual girls themselves and their hard work?

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so you’re saying that if the groups have successful comebacks it will be solely based on hybe and on chairman bang pd other than the actual girls themselves and their hard work?

Its due to MHJ using the same concept for too long. These 4 new songs are simply not as good as ditto, hybe boy, attention, omg and super shy, which hybe already stockpiled for them pre-debut. Fans are fans and will love whatever the group releases, but casuals are fickle and get bored easily.

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Its due to MHJ using the same concept for too long. These 4 new songs are simply not as good as ditto, hybe boy, attention, omg and super shy, which hybe already stockpiled for them pre-debut. Fans are fans and will love whatever the group releases, but casuals are fickle and get bored easily.

we’re having two different conversations.

anyway, i think it’s interesting that k-pop fans fixate so much on worldwide spotify (especially us spotify) when it’s pretty obvious that a lot of k-pop songs that do well are a product of companies using organized payola for playlisting, ads and autoplay. (and yes this includes newjeans in the past too)

i’d prefer real and organic numbers over these highly inflated numbers that are supposed to sell this fantasy that kpop is relevant in the west. when in actuality it’s still a complete niche that most of the gp don’t care about at all.

celebrating inflated numbers just seems so redundant to me.

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HYBE has Illit, Le Sserafim and Katseye in the same quarter. Bang PD is geeking to give them all the success to make Q3 successful.

Bang PD prides will strike hot IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

LSF had intro songs and trailers released in triangular languages, but MHJ took the step further with a Japanese debut, bringing in the profits. I do not like the approach using Japanese fans, but if became a trend, say goodbye to Japanese industry that he prides in. There is a reason Japanese industry restrict limited access to their music, culture and take such pride in them.

it's not just payola, it's casual fans too. If you look at many Hybe groups, their Bsides have really good streams too (for Kpop), even the ones that aren't pushed on any playlists.

a lot of the Western Kpop fandom came into it via BTS, MHJ pissed them off and they're not currently listening to NewJeans, it's pretty obvious. Maybe they'll win them back, fans are fickle after all and people forget scandals and all that, but it's not just a matter of company support.

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Bang PD prides will strike hot IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

LSF had intro songs and trailers released in triangular languages, but MHJ took the step further with a Japanese debut, bringing in the profits. I do not like the approach using Japanese fans, but if became a trend, say goodbye to Japanese industry that he prides in. There is a reason Japanese industry restrict limited access to their music, culture and take such pride in them.

I'm just here waiting for New Jeans and ADOR gone before 2025 rolls around.

The Illit-Le Sserafim-Katseye tradeoff isn't so bad. Hybe probably has more girl groups to debut since they don't gaf about their boy groups like that. So expect his fragile ego to know no bounds.

so were people not listening to new jeans back then and most of the streams were paid for , or have people dropped them entirely now and thats why the streams dropped so much?

Their older song still show no signs of weakening. Bubblegum daily streams are already below Super Shy

Will be interesting to see how far they daily streams fall after a few months without release. If it fall to around 4m like Le Sserafim currently, that would be a bit worrisome for their future global success . Seems also than they get no more streams from indonesia and philippines which are usually big part of k-pop songs streams on spotify

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using organized payola for playlisting, ads and autoplay. (and yes this includes newjeans in the past too)

Clicked on this thread out of curiosity but dammm...

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so were people not listening to new jeans back then and most of the streams were paid for , or have people dropped them entirely now and thats why the streams dropped so much?

It's more about losing massive support, promoting the songs to mainstream via SNS. Not about whatever streams right now, that be the least of my worries. NJ previous songs were perfectly fine popular hits because they had that support to make it go viral everywhere.

K-pop is not giving that jams, right now. If you want to know what I'm doing, I'm listening to western payola summery bops. I prefer summery bops because it's hot, heat waves on us every day.

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so you’re saying that if the groups have successful comebacks it will be solely based on hybe and on chairman bang pd other than the actual girls themselves and their hard work?

Before that was only reserved for giving New Jeans the illusion of being relevant globally but now Hybe no longer gaf about them, they will move on to give all the support that MHJ and New Jeans spat back at them to the other labels that weren't planning to steal a label from them since 2021. I hope my response was adequate

How much did supershy do on Japan debut??

I don’t remember the figure well but it seems their Korean song out debuted their first original jpop tracks which doesn’t make sense

as soon as njs gets free from hybe, they will resume their promotions on spotify with more globale marketed songs like super shy and do great all over again .

hybe is trying to damage and weaken their brand as much as they can and through all possible means as long as they still have parent compagny's prerogatives before they leave .

but they're fighting in vain. true talent, quality and vision, with the right support will always preveal .

Lol instead of sabotaging competition and ripping them off left and right, hybe/bang should focus on producing original quality content . because they've got 3 ggs as of now and man... they're all painfully mediocre and lack talent and identity .

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Before that was only reserved for giving New Jeans the illusion of being relevant globally but now Hybe no longer gaf about them, they will move on to give all the support that MHJ and New Jeans spat back at them to the other labels that weren't planning to steal a label from them since 2021. I hope my response was adequate

why are you acting like hybe exclusively gave support to newjeans when we know for a fact that behind the scenes newjeans were being straight up ignored because of the fatass and his “face blindness”.

hybe has been supporting the other girl groups under their label the whole time with their excessive payola so bang can remove the k from kpop and achieve his western validation dreams (except for poor gfriend and fromis rip)

let’s not act like it was just newjeans receiving all the support. bang was straight up mad when ditto became one of the most successful kpop songs of all time.

but yes let’s celebrate bang shilling out millions to pay daddy spotify to “bury” newjeans. that wouldn’t be the first time he has made a ridiculously shitty financial mistake with his company

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Dude is disturbed and so is the same group of people circle jerking these posts

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This.

We needed to report these users as missing people, when NewJeans was setting a bunch of records with their Japanese singles yesterday, but now they can't stop yapping. How funny is it that at least one jobless yapper pulled the same stunt in the Megathread? Losing that injunction got her feeling some type of way after all that shit she was talking for weeks.

Also, this thread will flop just like the last couple of attempts. I'm not entertaining this idiot OP.

I'll be playing the Elden Ring DLC instead.

Sadly, you reap what you sow.

Edit: I also believe that group lost plenty of casual fans, sadly.🤷🏽‍♂️

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Sadly, you reap what you sow.

Edit: I also believe that group lost plenty of casual fans, sadly.🤷🏽‍♂️

newjeans didn’t lose any real fans. they just lost token hybe worshippers and armys lol. they will be fine.