Besides the obnoxious and unapologetic part, what were you before?
I don't know who I was, who I am or who I'm going to be yet.
Just keep NewJeans' names out your mouth!
Besides the obnoxious and unapologetic part, what were you before?
I don't know who I was, who I am or who I'm going to be yet.
Just keep NewJeans' names out your mouth!
Funniest thing about this is how you were adamant about how Illit wasn't copying NJ only to Min HeeJin herself say so
I was just joking, catzi. It was nothing serious and just some venting I posted on AKP. It's not like I planned on really following through with it or anything.
Mother is coming for save kpop
She will bless us with her divine smile and celestial vocals in a showcase of endless talent and immaculate skill that could only be displayed by a member of THE Mamamoo. Our yeba
If I know a Super Junior member, its not for a good reason lmao
That perfect shade hit those boys so hard they'll never see a ray of sunlight again
Don't hit me with the Yongsun. My roots are still planted in the Radish Field. They've just...spread to other areas, but you never forget your home
Not even in the mood to enjoy any comebacks tbh
This is bad, I hope this end soon.
I can't blame you. The level of hate being thrown at LSF and ILLIT is atrocious
You say this to an ex-sm stan that know 5 males idols under that company MAX.
It was always a bad excuse Yama
Wow, you were a flop SM stan
I knew all the second gen SM idols and I wasn't even a stan!
Every company stan deserves a humbling and wacking
It wasn't a company stan concept. Till this day, I still don't know a single male idol under Hybe that isn't a BTS member. Wouldn't even do a double take or blink twice if I saw one on the street
It was GIRL GROUP specific
No, I'm back to full-time NewJeans stan. I'm now lobbing attacks at Hybe for how they bungled this whole thing with all three groups and MHJ for fanning the flames
You needed a good humbling
Sucks to suck 😔
Stop leaving hate comments. My cause was noble!
I had those OG Big 3 stans right where I wanted them, uncomfortably salty, and then Hybe and MHJ self destruct like this
The fact NewJeans is more popular than ever somehow in the aftermath is the only positive, because it seems like LSF/ILLIT went in the other direction by an even larger margin. Poor girls.
And poor me for having to scrap what would've been an invincible concept...for now
For everyone talking about jail and crimes and ruined careers, I honestly just have two letters for you:
Justice is dead.
"Hybe girl group stan"
I was ready to conquer the world, but now I'll have to stick to my original concept and wait out the firestorm
Me and my team have been carefully laying the foundation for my transition into a new concept as an obnoxious and unapologetic Hybe girl group stan.
How do you think I feel about how this week has gone and continues to go
Can I introduce you to the words "conflict of" and "interest"?
Of course I know I can and will continue to stan NewJeans (obviously), LSF and even ILLIT, but I just wanted to ask that people spare a few moments and well wishes for the multi stans, including would be multi stans like myself.
This week is hell
thelyinguy cannot be trusted. I think he should be forced to donate 10 akorns to every participant in this thread as a tax for sneaking thread ownership
I'm not going to debate the laws and governances of how to correctly run sub-labels. This is not to say I disagree that the structure of Hybe needs re-work, but that's not my point.
Moving on, I've already called out that they personality flaws they need to see to for both their own benefit and those around them. One of the several I think he needs to work on is the one I alluded to in my reply to you - his glory hog nature. If he's not welcomed to share it with you, he's going to resent you for it and act out immaturely. Hers is an overbearing belief in her ownership to a fault.
I don't think that personality conflict is indicative of Hybe purposefully pitting the sub labels against each other, but I do believe that is how she sees it.
I don't disagree with your ultimate point either. My opinion is just that it's a horrible look for glory hogging and oversized egos to result in a reputation destroying nightmare of a public feud and plummeting stock prices. A lot of what MHJ said and did is unprofessional at the very least, but I'm equally vexed at the apparent pettiness and insecurity of Hybe's literal founder.
I'm not Army, but based on what I've observed in this thread, I'm guessing this is nothing new for them.
Well most of what I see in kforums and twitter doesn't seem like it
I know putting a fandom in a single bag it's not fair, but most of what I have found out doesn't think there is anything wrong with what mhj is doing or saying
Yes...but a lot of those people aren't Bunnies. Have you seen the comments? Unless you think most bunnies are office workers getting overworked and underpaid, the MHJ support can't possibly all be from them.
Also, let's not pretend that antis don't oftentimes masquerade as one fandom while attacking another so that both fandoms end up getting dragged.
I just think it's reckless to try to pin this on one fandom.
Now blaming MHJ for adding fuel to the fire is legitimate. She did that objectively speaking .
also im surprised no one has mentioned this -
and tokkies can't even denied it bc before all of this the general idea was that nj promo was good and that they were hybe new golden child, they never complain, they said the no teaser promo was genius, they said mhj has great ideas about promo
We are not a monolith. I keep saying this, but this keeps getting swept under the rug.
We're not a bunch of thebadguy or Tatiananumbers here. Most Tokkis are extremely frustrated with MHJ name dropping groups as well as the hate said groups are receiving.
For me, no. She's never kept it a secret that she wants to be independent in every way and that NJ is hers and hers alone. IMO, Bang seems to like to have his share in the glory, good or bad. Someone unwilling to share that glory is going to rub him the wrong way.
My point in saying this is that I don't think this is indicative of him creating unhealthy competition between sub-labels. This was an ego battle between the two.
I wholeheartedly disagree. If he was going to build a business model using a multi-label structure, there should have been very strict controls in place to prevent even the remote possibility of the various labels feeling like their IPs and concepts are infringed upon by their both peers and competitors. MHJ's ego is irrelevant to this; it's basic corporate governance and policy management, and any large organization with multiple divisions, let alone multiple companies must have this in place. There should also be a form of due process should these strict policies by violated, and that appears to be noticeably absent as well.
I look at it like this. Microsoft recently acquired Activision-Blizzard. If I saw a text exchange between the CEOs, where the Microsoft CEO's response to the Activision-Blizzard CEO reporting record sales for Diablo 4 (actually happened) was "Are you happy?", dripping with sarcastic venom, I would be livid and wonder what the hell is going on at a governance level.
Putting that example aside, if the head of the ship gets bitter and jealous over the success of his own shipmates, then it is not a large stretch AT ALL to believe that he's not the only one who feels that way.
I would really like to hear from the other sub labels about this. As far as I know, she is the only one I know of accusing HYBE of creating a toxic environment and playing the sub labels off of each other.
Isn't BHS's reaction to Ditto charting on the Billboard damning enough? He should've been thrilled that one of his company's girl groups was thriving, but he was bitter and disrespectful.
For me, that's enough. It's an egregiously bad look for the person who established this multi label environment and wants to sell investors on its efficiency.
If your money was invested in Hybe, how would that exchange honestly make you feel?