It's all a bunch of cope. Cope. Cope. Cope. Cope.
A bunch of bitter K-Pop stans who'd rather downplay the importance of Korean charting than admit their favorite groups' song(s) aren't gaining traction there.
Meanwhile, Korean chart accomplishments by far get the most engagement on every platform, from AKP to X to reddit.
You do. Stop lying. It's BS and you know it. I'm not going to post some long-winded diatribe today; I'm keeping it simple.
The same people who I see mocking the relevance of MelOn in particular are the same people making 5 achievement threads a day when their favorite artists pull off high MelOn debuts, roof hits and All-Kills.
The real tea is that the charts don't matter when your favs flop and then they're suddenly relevant when your favs have a hit.
THAT'S the tea and it's time for me to sip what's left after I spilled it
so enjoy life in hybe until...when was it 2029
Shut up
So many words, when the simple answer is no.
I am the foremost expert on third generation K-Pop. I was on the streets of Seoul when DDDD dropped.
Anyone attributing all of BLACKPINK's success is just a hater. And any person who has ever succeeded in entertainment needed a little luck to rise to the top.
It's a ridiculous statement.
Display MoreI don't care what anybody says. Blackpink's success is 90% about luck and good timing. If they debut the same day as Babymon, they wouldn't be as big, they would be dragged just like ILLIT or LSF, because they are on the same level! You can say they're massive now, but 2NE1 became Legends without mass streaming farms and social media. You can choose ignorance, but SNS was a massive factor in promotions.
Not to mention, it's pretty much all on BTS that Kpop became MASSIVE outside of Asia. That's why I said, they're lucky. They became big after BTS kicked the door in!
Everyone knows that both groups has a loyal fanbase, and their actual job is to stream songs 24/7 on 10 different devices at the same time. 😂 The mass buying Chinese fandom, and the lack of comebacks, and modeling is also a big factor in their success.
Mate, be serious, please. Not their fandom was luck, their popularity! Their fadom got bigger, because they became more mainstream. That's how these things work, people always care more about mainstream things. They didn't do anything to earn the amount of popularity they have. Did they offer more than any other average Kpop group? No. YG was at it's peak when BP debuted, they promoted them as the next 2NE1, hence their instant popularity in Korea.
If BP is really that successful, YG shouldn't have to sell their golf course and 60% of the biggest part of the company, Studio Plex. YG spent BILLIONS to make them popular! That's not hard work.
You what hard work is? What BTS did. They were nugus, and became the biggest boy group. The same goes for Bigbang. They started from nothing, while groups like BP and yes, Babymon as well had everything from start. All they needed is a pretty face and a company with enough money to make them look better than they are.
This isn't hate, just facts. The Babymon girls at least can say, they can sing, dance, and rap unlike their seniors. Without Rose, BP is like a car without an engine.
I know BLINKS never gonna accept the facts, but I don't care. BP don't deserve the success they have. And I don't really care about their success, but what I don't like is when people think BP became big because they worked harder than anyone else, and they're better than anyone else. In this industry, hard work and talent doesn't equal with popularity. Most mainstream artists are bang average, at best! Not just in Kpop, and not just BP!
Please tell me you're joking. 5 BLINKS in the beginning? Why don't you call them nugus? 🤣
BP never had a small fandom. I don't know what some people smoke on this Forum, but give me some too. Of course, they didn't have 500K sales when they debut, because their 1st physical album was released 2 YEARS after their debut, and they sold more thank 500K, btw. No small group would debut with a PAK!
They debuted in 2016, and in 2019 they already performed at Coachella. At that time, no nugu group could even dream about perform there.
I just love when YG stans say their faves wasn't big since day 1 and YG didn't promote them enough, when all you saw in K-media is BP! After 3 years, YG stopped sending them to Variety Shows and Award shows because they became famous in the West. Please, don't try to rewrite history!
I'm not reading this
Well, did you lose?
Imagine being outcharted by fromis_9
They had a top 10 hit.
Don't come for my fromis_9 girls like that
Little known random Yama fact:
When I watched the Idol School finale and they revealed the group name as "fromis_9", I thought it was some type of women's product and that they were the sponsors 
Like we even joked about BP having 5 kblinks in the beginning
but look at them now?? Doing concerts in SK to +20k each night!
We went from kinda small, to medium, to big, to what we have now. It wasn't just debuted and already got +500k album sales.. as I said BP grew each era and blinks grew with them.. it wasn't easy bc of the lack of music activity, but I must say blinks did amazing at waiting the girls and when they dropped music they gathered more and more stans.
Anyways, they had the big3 back up, but to be where they are now they also had a hella support from a fandom that 80% wasn't even here in the beginning.
As much as I clash with certain Blinks now, you all were way more annoying back then.
That's why I'll never let summer 2017 go 
As the one who fought with Blinks more than anyone on any forum during their first few years, it's silly to say their fandom was luck.
Even I'll admit Blinks had to earn and prove themselves, because I used to clown them ALL the time for having a meager fandom during those years relative to how they spoke of themselves and BP, who didn't even have physical albums for 2 years.
Display MoreHonestly, I was surprised that DRIP didn't chart in Korea, because I knew BILLIE's song that was written by IU won't chart because they're nugu, but Babymon isn't, and as I said a couple of days ago, I expected BM to chart in the TOP100 in their first week in the TOP20 at least, but looks like even GD can't save them.
BUT, I love the fact that Babymon isn't just an overhyped lucky average like Blackpink was! And not just another cheap 2NE1 knockoff, either.
The fact that BM isn't debuted like Blackpink will force YG to be more creative, hence their new album, not to mention, their fans will see that even if they're a BIG4 group and the successor of BP, they won't be half as popular as BP. At least, not that fast. This slow growth will help them in the long-term.
The real problem is YG, they're doing a shit job! The only focus is basically Ahyeon, Chiquita, and Asa. While Rami, and Ruka and the rest is just there. I'm pretty sure, Korean are bored with YG for years now, and it shows!
YG thought, BM can have the same route as BP, but when he realized they can't, he forced Ahyeon and Banana girl to be the next JenLisa duo, and now they're struggling.
Just think about it, if YG would've done the same thing what S2 is doing with KIOF, Babymon could've been massive already, and not just on charts! KIOF focusing on quality, while YG focusing wanting to be the next big thing, because they lost 2NE1 and Blackpink as well.
The way you contorted and distorted yourself to turn this BM critique into BP shade is as concerning as it is commendable.
Tfw apparently internationally means "The United States".
As a U.S. citizen, it's such a tacky thing to see said and spread everywhere.
Second generation, the ones who ushered in the Hallyu Wave alongside the actors and actresses of the K-Drama World, are absolutely the ones who truly kicked off the mass exportation of K-Pop to the rest of the world.
I saw BTS perform as part of a KCON lineup BEFORE their glow up during the DNA era, so people need to stop revising history and pretending K-Pop was completely non-existent globally or in the West prior to BTS's ascension
Upset at Koreans? No, never. I've been to Korea twice and plan to go many more times in my life. I've loved it both times and the people treated me well.
Upset at the situation? Yes, sure
Wind Flower was the only Mamamoo song that flopped on the charts during their 4 Seasons Era, and it deserved better 
Not again 
Baemon international fan meeting was quite successful.I think they will grow on korean once their international popularity raised. Isn't that what happened with BP last time ? They score global first before hit success at home ?
BLACKPINK debuted with a Perfect All-Kill with Whistle.
It's literally the second biggest girl group debut in history
That's how high the bar was set.
They are a girl group. It's ridiculous to judge after less than a week. Especially for Baemon. People didn't believe sheesh would go well but didn't it rise? I'm not a fan of theirs but I'm laughing each time someone put that type of thread.
They're not even in the top 100.
The, at this point, cliche line "just wait for them to promote" doesn't really apply here.
It will take a miraculous chart reversal for the song to even be a semi successful hit in Korea.
Plus that is the same line HYBE stans on Reddit gave me when I brought up ILLIT's underperformance, and 2 weeks later the song isn't exactly lighting up the charts.
Let's just call a spade a spade for once.
