is Vocal the main focus of 4th gen GG now?

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is it because they saw that groups with strong vocals have a better longevity in korea and more popular ?

Can you give me some names that support your facts?

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Can you give me some names that support your facts?

Twice and BP

I think it is visual, visual, visual and now that the bar is higher for the big 4 groups visual + vocal or visual + dance.

How is vocals main focus of 4th gen when majority of new groups members can't even sing or are just medicore at best

this only applies with the big 3 tbh and sm always focused on vocals nothing new there

aespa, nmixx and baemon with the other 4th gen girl groups not so much

also Yg wasn't always the weakest JYP had weak vocalists too. Big bang, treasure winner are not even weak vocally. They also had big mama that was their first girl group.

I think we need more song..

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Twice and BP

I think BP is known for perf than vocal.

while Twice is past their peaks in KR, they are still doing good in sales, so I'm not sure which group in Gen 3 is more popular than them WW outside of BP.

Other trendy gen 4 ggs like IVE, Les, and NJ still doing well and are not known for their vocal.

Only Aespa is known for their vocal because it is SM traditional lol

NMIXX is doing good in album sales, but the big 3, they are not doing good enough.

for BM, I am waiting for their debut.

so I don't think vocal is a focus of gen 4 lol

Vocals doesn't matter, looking at the top bg and gg right now.

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Oh hell no, the arguable biggest group in kpop right now is not focused at all on vocal (NJ), also IVE and LSRF are very far from 2nd gen debuts or even 3rd gen. Aespa/NMIXX are exceptions. StayC is very good and they all try to sing live but they ain't vocal powerhouse.

For bg vocal is dead.

I think this is just a Big 3 thing only, and then specifically YG and JYP: SM have always included solid vocals in their groups and tbh, they had more stronger vocalists in former gens.

With YG and JYP, it's a yes: where before YG focused more on unique voice color and stage presence for their groups and vocal prowess and skills were considered unimportant (the sad fate of strongest dancer and vocalist yet most neglected duckling, Minzy in 2NE1, says it all), with Baemon they have included vocals, and were even advertising that vocals would be a major focus in choosing trainees for Baemon.

And while JYP groups weren't known for vocals as a main strength (except for 2AM iirc), NMIXX seems to have stronger vocalists too.

But that's it, other traits as image/visuals and performance/dance are still more important in current era.

But I guess you could say that YG and JYP have started to include strong vocals more for their new groups, where as SM have started to include strong(er) rap for their new groups.

I agree for the big 3.

Hybe GG don't follow this trend : NJ and Le Sserafim don't focus on vocals

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and they are less focus on doing crazy chorregraphy and performance

No they do that too. Nmixx is simply perfect. Just accept that.

But I agree that jyp and yg care about showcasing vocals now more than previous gen. SM actually prioritizes showcasing performance more for aespa but vocals has always been a requirement for them. aespa are great at the vocal depertmant but they don't seem to care about showcasing it very often which is a shame.

i don't think so but i am very happy nmixx and aespa have decent vocal talent

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