Why masculine boygroup doesn't exist in kpop anymore?
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What? Have you like not listened to any 4th gen bgs? They are filled with masculinity
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What? Have you like not listened to any 4th gen bgs? They are filled with masculinity
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What? Have you like not listened to any 4th gen bgs? They are filled with masculinity
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What? Have you like not listened to any 4th gen bgs? They are filled with masculinity
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I think when people say masculine they meant more macho looking guys most groups today are on more of the pretty boy twink side of things very slim skinny or skinny fit guys.
People like monsta x 2pm or the two kard members are a serious rarity. You rarely find guys that look like BM or Wonho. One major reason is looking like that is a full time job and not easy to achieve especially as a idol. The happy middle ground is guy's that are big as Bangchan and changbin but even they are rare those two are big but not as big as Wonho and Matthew but close the only other person that did this was Kim Jongkook during his turbo days
But besides that yes there's alot of masculinity in kpop just not very much of the old school traditional sense of it= big guy muscles
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I think when people say masculine they meant more macho looking guys most groups today are on more of the pretty boy twink side of things very slim skinny or skinny fit guys.
People like monsta x 2pm or the two kard members are a serious rarity. You rarely find guys that look like BM or Wonho. One major reason is looking like that is a full time job and not easy to achieve especially as a idol. The happy middle ground is guy's that are big as Bangchan and changbin but even they are rare those two are big but not as big as Wonho and Matthew but close the only other person that did this was Kim Jongkook during his turbo days
But besides that yes there's alot of masculinity in kpop just not very much of the old school traditional sense of it= big guy muscles
Its not necessarily about the muscular body
I have just binge watching Infinite music videos
they dont look really bigger or more muscular, but somehow they feel more masculine than today's boygroups idk why it is? maybe its mannerism?
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Because they were more people focused their concept and music and personality had the general public in mind meaning they had to cater towards all audiences. This is why today BigBang is still the number one group among all ages and demographics despite all the issues they had. BigBang was a group you could approach and talk to possibly even befriend and not feel awakward about or embarrassed.
Where's as all boy groups today cater to their fandoms exclusively and the female demographic. So a male fan of the group
feels alienated as if they don't belong and talking to them you feel like you are unwelcomed. This is why most groups die out very quickly as fans grow up or move on. These older groups had to keep up with the times and put out content that everyone would like. Not just some stuff targeted to horny teenage and young adult women.
This is why those groups had less issues with relationships and marriage. As opposed to today's groups who will get cancelled for a relationship
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I think it’s probably perhaps because styling and beauty standards (in Korea at least) have changed over the years from what some people would traditionally view as “masculine”. Androgynous styling is what’s popular and used the most now, different then it was back then. (The concepts they use, in my opinion, aren’t what’s determining that. I mean, there are a lot more innocent/cuter bg concepts being used right now, particularly for younger groups, than, say, 10 years ago. But there are still a ton, you could even say a majority, of groups that use more dark concepts.)
Of course, I’m not trying to state that styling has anything to do with a person’s masculinity itself, or that certain things are what determine masculinity, I’m just noting overall how some people generally perceive and categorise them at first glance.
Please note that, as a previous user said on this thread, masculinity is different to every single person.
That’s all I have to say. I hope this answer helps!
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no promo here
Yes promo here!
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like 2pm
like Taecyeon oppar
Many of the bgs I cited are masculine though
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Because they were more people focused their concept and music and personality had the general public in mind meaning they had to cater towards all audiences. This is why today BigBang is still the number one group among all ages and demographics despite all the issues they had. BigBang was a group you could approach and talk to possibly even befriend and not feel awakward about or embarrassed.
Where's as all boy groups today cater to their fandoms exclusively and the female demographic. So a male fan of the group
feels alienated as if they don't belong and talking to them you feel like you are unwelcomed. This is why most groups die out very quickly as fans grow up or move on. These older groups had to keep up with the times and put out content that everyone would like. Not just some stuff targeted to horny teenage and young adult women.
This is why those groups had less issues with relationships and marriage. As opposed to today's groups who will get cancelled for a relationship
tbh, i dont really understand this
why targeting teenagers and young adult women mean the group has to be less masculine? is it what fangirls want? like i have been listening kpop since when i was kid but i have always drawn more to masculine boygroups. I think the taste is more diverse than people think it is.
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masculinity in kpop peaked here
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As a woman, if someone asks me what exactly is feminine. I would not know how to explain it properly bcos women are trying to express their femininity in their own terms as opposed to the traditional and conservative meaning.
Shouldn’t the same be applied for men? Why are ppl defining and questioning their masculinity bcos they don’t present the traditional expression and expectations of it?
Or am I just thinking too deep into this question? In that case ignore my point .
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Many of the bgs I cited are masculine though
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As a woman, if someone asks me what exactly is feminine. I would not know how to explain it properly bcos women are trying to express their femininity in their own terms as opposed to the traditional and conservative meaning.
Shouldn’t the same be applied for men? Why are ppl defining and questioning their masculinity bcos they don’t present the traditional expression and expectations of it?
Or am I just thinking too deep into this question? In that case ignore my point .
its not deep
and I dont even know what is traditionally considered masculine in detail
I am just basing it off on my own opinion ofc its open for everyone to express their opinion on masculinityi dont even know if i am using the right word, its just older boygroups feel more "grown" to me, the vibe they give
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2pm Taecyeon
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For some reason 0X1=Lovesong started playing in my head as soon as I saw this...
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As a woman, if someone asks me what exactly is feminine. I would not know how to explain it properly bcos women are trying to express their femininity in their own terms as opposed to the traditional and conservative meaning.
Shouldn’t the same be applied for men? Why are ppl defining and questioning their masculinity bcos they don’t present the traditional expression and expectations of it?
Or am I just thinking too deep into this question? In that case ignore my point .
you definitely have a point but i think op meant in the stereotypical way masculinity is perceived
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isn't the question then who you think is masculine vs who you think isn't?
I know you mentioned Taecyeon from the 2nd but from the 4th I know like treasure OP so which member(s) of treasure do you think are (more) masculine vs which member(s) do you think are (less) masculine ???
you also mentioned it's not muscular body so what features make a person masculine in your opinion? face? beard? hair? styling? makeup? clothing?
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I don’t find pretty boys attractive at all. Like 99% of male K-pop idols are not attractive for me but I can understand the appeal of pretty boys I guess.
At least we still have Kang Daniel!
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isn't the question then who you think is masculine vs who you think isn't?
I know you mentioned Taecyeon from the 2nd but from the 4th I know like treasure OP so which member(s) of treasure do you think are (more) masculine vs which member(s) do you think are (less) masculine ???
you also mentioned it's not muscular body so what features make a person masculine in your opinion? face? beard? hair? styling? makeup? clothing?
treasure are too young for masculinity, personally i dont find anyone to be masculine right now
maybe the rap line (hyunsuk, yoshi & haruto after few years)
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I don’t find pretty boys attractive at all. Like 99% of male K-pop idols are not attractive for me but I can understand the appeal of pretty boys I guess.
At least we still have Kang Daniel!
I am similar, pretty boys dont attract me, but there is few exception like Infinite L
but I dont find appeal of Kang Daniel
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its not deep
and I dont even know what is traditionally considered masculine in detail
I am just basing it off on my own opinion ofc its open for everyone to express their opinion on masculinityi dont even know if i am using the right word, its just older boygroups feel more "grown" to me, the vibe they give
Ah so you mean more mature and older looking?
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