seeing beautiful monster's chart performance, i think newjeans might crowd stayc out. the 4th gen gg hierarchy should expect major changes

Ador hasn’t debuted yet and y’all already clowning Stayc Okay

Well, let's see how it goes

I feel like i see the same kind of thread for every newly debuted group

Stayc’s biggest hit in korea is probably asap, not run2u. Asap had much longer longevity and created buzz about a new gg rising so it made headlines, while run2u is a regular decent charting song but ultimately wasn’t really memorable for the stayc brand

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think ive and stayc have similar niche

I have seen ppl say this but I don't see stayc ever releasing eleven

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biggest hit, run2u

No it's ASAP by far. Run2u longevity was poor.

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how is this "clowning" stayc? its facts that beautiful monster is underperforming. and staycs sales are also not on par with the top 4th gen ggs , which means a big 4 gg like newjeans will easily surpass them there if nowhere else.

When New jeans will bag a hit and sell albums your concern will be valid. You’re really making no sense. Stayc will be fine.

Can gg's never just coexist

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i chose run2u because it is their highest chart peak. i do agree asap was prob bigger in influence. but really i'm trying to say beautiful monsters charting is shocking to me. unless it picks up steam after some more promo.

Yeah ik run2u peaked higher than asap but the difference was really negligible and not significant enough to pull ahead of asap in terms of charting, and asap stayed on charts for much longer anyway

as for beautiful monster it’s not a terrible song but it has no oomph and lacks that distinct upbeat stayc flair so I actually already predicted it wouldn’t do well on charts as soon as the teaser dropped, so personally it wasn’t really shocking to me to see how it’s charting now

I've been worried about them since last fall. They got their legs rudely cut out from under them, NL stole all their thunder from ASAP. Savage defeated Stereotype, then Eleven topped Run2U, and then a 1-2 devastating combo of Tomboy and Love Dive and even a sneaky little left jab by Lesserafirm with Fearless....

Beautiful Monster is a good song but it's getting paid dust now, these promos need to get the GP listening to it, otherwise the song could be out of Melon soon.

We'll see how Newbeans develops but if the girls come off as charismatic in Vlives, varieties, interviews, etc as they do in the music videos, i think they're an existential threat to all of the 4th gen groups. From just pure first impressions, i think MJH really nailed it with the casting of the members.

ETA: their song sounds even better with a band, as all Kpop songs do. NO WAY it should be flopping.

this is probably true, just like how everglow,weeekly and loona were kicked out from the list by ive & lsfrm. both itzy and stayc struggling on chart but itzy have solid international fanbase and also massive album sales so...

BEP were able to produce many hit songs for other agencies, but they keep doing lackluster title tracks for their own group. I don't get it. It always misses something to me... maybe I'm just not their target audience.

But anyway, ggs can be successful and coexist in different metrics, even when they aren't topping domestic charts. Stayc will be fine ig.

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BEP were able to produce many hit songs for other agencies, but they keep doing lackluster title tracks for their own group. I don't get it. It always misses something to me... maybe I'm just not their target audience.

But anyway, ggs can be successful and coexist in different metrics, even when they aren't topping domestic charts. Stayc will be fine ig.

You didnt like Beautiful Monster? What about their debut, So Bad?

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this is probably true, just like how everglow,weeekly and loona were kicked out from the list by ive & lsfrm. both itzy and stayc struggling on chart but itzy have solid international fanbase and also massive album sales so...

Stayc isnt like these groups tho. They have two moderate korean hits and decent streams internationally as well and good album sales. Their last album sold almost 250k and their fandom keeps increasing. The other groups lacked in at least 1 of the things i mentioned, if not multiple

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You didnt like Beautiful Monster? What about their debut, So Bad?

Not my cup of tea, love. But I've listened to all their albums and I think "Young Luv" and "Complex" are great songs. I always check them out because I like Sumin and Yoon.

When will kpop fans stop to jinx new groups that didn't even debut to begin with?

They can't wait for at least two comebacks before saying if they are more popular than another group smh

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This thread, my eyes have rolled 360...

I would like to see it!

Lmao. Stayc have the best producer for gg as their ceo don’t worry. More hit coming from them later on.

NewJeans babies have only been breathing for a minute and people are so pressed. Chill

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Lmao. Stayc have the best producer for gg as their ceo don’t worry. More hit coming from them later on.

best producers but the songs not hitting lot...

eitheir BEP lost their touch or the gp just doesnt care about StayC, BEP produced some of the biggest gg hits of all time

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but it has happened to groups in staycs ranks in the past. gfriend, aoa. these groups had huge peaks and then its suddenly all gone. whether we want to attribute it to other groups rising faster or management issues, something goes wrong. many ggs do not have longevity like bgs like super junior or even bts.

How can anyone know? lol

Same thing was said abt idle and then suddenly they dropped tomboy and rest is history

The only thing that is factual right now is that they have a steadily increasing fandom but not much of a presence in the gp's publics eye as it depends on their songs and promos to get a hit and for them to rise since they lack the brand name. And that can go whichever way. I also dont see how newjeans is in any way shape or form competition for stayc, i see nothing similar in their whole style and since they havent released any songs digitally or an album yet its impossible and unfair to compare.

They broke their previous album sales record so all hope isn't lost they could bounced back with good song choice next comeback

No because Stayc is getting compared to loona and Everglow the lowest is what. They’re selling 250k albums you would think they sell 4 copies.