When I say 4th gen groups lack stage pressence this is what I mean

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Just a few, but yeah, Stray Kids is nice. JYP overall is focusing on stage pressence and charisma which is good

ATEEZ too, they are dividing the record with Mamamoo as the idol groups with the most wins on Immortal Songs' history (3). I recommend you to also check them out, if you havent.

Quote from salem9

Just a few, but yeah, Stray Kids is nice. JYP overall is focusing on stage pressence and charisma which is good

u may need to see ATEEZ as well

this song is so underrated

[ATEEZ - HALA HALA] Special Stage | M COUNTDOWN 190131 EP.604 - YouTube

weeekly out here using props and actual stages every time

I wouldn't know about that, I'm an Itzy stan.

I think 4th gen have good grips when it comes to stage presence, even much more than 3rd gen groups.

Though I mostly watch boygroups' stuffs so I don't know much about girl groups but 4th gen boygroups surely don't lack stage presence unless you are nitpicking those who are average.

then you just looking at the wrong groups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDeUDGs9yuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?…hannel=MnetK-POPMnetK-POP

If this is their live vocals and not prerecorded, they're actually doing amazing. Better than 99.99% of pop stars actually, how can they dance and sing on pitch like that? Usually you'll see truly live vocals go flat every once in awhile (disclaimer: i only watched the first minute or so).

People just have different understanding of what stage presence mean. Many 4th generation fans seem to think synchronised hard dancing means stage presence, personally I'd rather kpop group would go back to enjoying themselves on stage.

I don't know the group in the OP, but it reminded me somehow of Crayon Pop, or the Celeb Five

Is it a Japanese group? For a moment, I thought it was a North Korean group. I suppose it's a comical gimmick group then?

As for the whole stage presence discussion, it's so subjective it resembles the discussion about who's an 'it girl' or not, or the discussions where vocal color and unique, distinctive tone of voice is used to state who's a better vocalist.

What all of those have in common is they're all based on someone's personal preference and particular taste in what they like to see in performances, while they fool themselves into thinking 'my view of stage presence is superior to all others'.

Discussions about that are entertaining but endless, since they're based on subjective, personal preference anyway

They didn't have anything fancy on and weren't dolled up either, but were very engaging from start to finish. It was like one scene from a musical. They were feeling it and hitting the moves in a way that I could even feel too! Sounds like there was no "backtrack" on the main vocals. They must have someone talented nurturing this out of them.

ITZY

STRAY KIDS

ATEEZ

TXT

ENHYPEN

Quote from salem9

She is better than the average. But my problem with this type of cute concepts is that the constant smile feels a little bit forced after a while (she has a similar vibe to Chuu from Loona btw)

I mean, you can actually do a cute concept and do other facial expressions

I think Weeekly (Jihan's group) have great stage presence and this is an example where they aren't constantly smiling :

I feel the above is a good example where natural talent/charm meets training and polish, resulting in great stage presence.

Itzy is very good imo, they have great facial expressions too which many ggs lack (even some 3r gen ggs), izone was like that too (except hyewon idk her name sorry, she was so bad )

In the other hand, some 4th gen bgs just are way to over the top...like chill. Txt and cix are good examples that u can do a good job on stage without breaking your neck

I mean I stan ITZY so I can’t relate and I like TXT, stray kids and nct , I have never seen any subpar performances from them

Nah you're either looking at the wrong groups or lying. I can't speak for girl groups because I don't follow but I have so many boy groups in mind that are simply eating up groups with years of experience when it comes to stage presence.

I saw you op saying enhypen doesn't stand out from other groups, now you're lying. If you mean versatility - they have it all. Watch Drunk-Dazed performance and then Not for sale performance (the two tracks they were performing one after another on shows during the comeback) or Given-Taken and 10 months (the performances during debut era). If you mean whether their dancers stand out - enhypen is the only group (besides txt) that out of 7 members have 7 members who can be called main dancers. They're the best dancers of the generation and I'm telling you that as a dancer too who can't be biased when it comes to dance since I'm very critical. Also, their choreographies stand out too, I've never seen group have so many hand movements AND manage to not make it look out of place. Honestly I can write you an essay but you can check out their performances yourself because enhypen is definitely one of the strongest groups when it comes to dance presence in kpop rn