When I say 4th gen groups lack stage pressence this is what I mean

Idols nowadays look like dolls, supermodels, whatever. But there's no soul, no ejoyment, no star power, just dull sharp dance moves.

Don't believe me?

THIS is what true charisma feels like. This is the living proof that you don't need amazing vocals to be an engaging entertainer

Japan, as usual, never disappoints

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Maybe you're just watching the wrong groups, OP.

I've watched a bunch and Itzy is the only one that stands out

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She is better than the average. But my problem with this type of cute concepts is that the constant smile feels a little bit forced after a while (she has a similar vibe to Chuu from Loona btw)

I mean, you can actually do a cute concept and do other facial expressions

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Have you watched boygroups? I'm being unbiased when I say Stray Kids and ATEEZ are great.

Just a few, but yeah, Stray Kids is nice. JYP overall is focusing on stage pressence and charisma which is good

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Enough said.

I see absolutely zero difference between them and the whole bunch of other boy groups out there

You're just being biased