I’ll start!
If an idol can’t sing they shouldn’t debut!
They don’t need to be a Beyoncé or Whitney or Wendy but if an idol can’t sing a simple note without sounding off key or being tone deaf they should not debut 
Idc if they have the best visuals in Korea or best dancer or rapper 
this isn’t directed at anyone specifically but if idols want a career in releasing music then learning how to sing should be their highest priority 
If idols can't sing, they need to stop going to encores and programs specifically for singers. It ruins it for the rest of us since now there's a culture of post-processing the vocals so much it's robotic
I like groups that have a distinctive style better
Hard choreo is ruining performances and stage presence
Fan chatting apps are disturbing
Stop putting stickers in the albums, wtf am I supposed to do with it??
hmmm
I have to somewhat disagree because because singing is not the most important part of the equation. It should be but many follow kpop for other reasons. Fan don't value vocals that much, it's why many groups that have a strong vocal line aren't the most popular. People will use them to attack others but they usually don't support the s strong vocalist. I do agree that an idol should be at least serviceable and able to perform songs they're recording.
My unpopular opinion
99.9999999% of kpop idols can't leave their group and become soloist. They need to remain in group to have a successful solo career. The way that Twice handles soloist and subunits is the right way to do it because JYPE gives them a brief solo run and they go back to the group. Majority of idols can't have a successful soloist career if they're group is on hiatus or disbanded. I feel most fans just move on once a group is no longer active.
It doesn't even sound like improvement half the time
It sounds like this😭
[99.9999999% of kpop idols can't leave their group and become soloist. They need to remain in group to have a successful solo career. The way that Twice handles soloist and subunits is the right way to do it because JYPE gives them a brief solo run and they go back to the group. Majority of idols can't have a successful soloist career if they're group is on hiatus or disbanded. I feel most fans just move on once a group is no longer active.]
Wouldn't this statement corroborate the OP's one though? Artists debut because they're pretty/have some other quality but are of lower quality regarding their singing/writing, then some fans will usually wave it off or not care because as you said, it is more of a entertainment and aesthetic medium than the conventional ones, and by the end of it you end up creating a cycle where the artist is either mid or worse, he doesn't develop because the fans do not care and will spend their money anyways, thus the company will also not improve said situation, and in the end the scene ends up becoming very mediocre and earning even more of a reputation for being 'plastic' and 'manufactured'.
My 'Unpopular' opinion would be that majority of 4th and 5th GEN groups are very boring and neutered at the moment, especially regarding variety shows, due to being audience captured and caring too much about aura and the image they must portray publicly, and that this unfortunately takes off a lot of the novelty and fun of following the media space of K-pop.
Can we finally admit new gen bgs are all copy and paste of each other
They all have the same broccoli head, and cute concept lmaoo like it’s giving absolutely NOTHING
I agree partially, but there's also the fact that every generation copies from eachother, right? There's no true original idea on this world. Something that I think is kinda sad to think about, and I read it somewhere weeks ago, is that there are various idols who debuted on the first two generations and were very successful who nowadays would not have been given the chance to debut on this one due to their looks, regardless of their talents.
Wouldn't this statement corroborate the OP's one though? Artists debut because they're pretty/have some other quality but are of lower quality regarding singing/writing, then some fans usually wave off or do not care because as you said, it is a more entertainment and aesthetic medium than the conventional ones, and by the end of it you end up creating a cycle where the artist is either mid or worse, he doesn't develop because the fans do not care and will spend money anyways, therefore the company will also not improve said situation, and in the end the scene ends up becoming very mediocre and earning even more a reputation for being 'plastic' and 'manufactured'.
My 'Unpopular' opinion would be that majority of 4th and 5th GEN groups are very boring and neutered at the moment, especially regarding variety shows, due to being audience captured and caring too much about aura and the image they must portray publicly, and that this unfortunately takes off a lot of the novelty and fun of following the media space of K-pop.
Correct, I fully agree with OP's opinion that an idol should at least be serviceable. I think the problem with that is a good portion of kpop fans don't consume kpop for vocals. It's why I somewhat disagreed with OP's opinion, but they're 100% right. I think the standards have sunk because fans shouldn't allow or defend when idols put on a poor vocal performance.
Also, I would like to add it's okay if line distribution is uneven because lines do not need to be distributed evenly. One thing that intrigued me in jpop, they'll have songs that are mainly for certain members and it will have an uneven line distribution. I remember kpop fans were angry at a jpop group for doing that but it makes perfect sense to do that. Certain songs a group perform doesn't need the vocals of certain members and kpop should consider that more. I think the issue with that is kpop fans aren't ready for that because I always see trending on sns when an idol gets limited line distribution.
I agree with your unpopular opnion that they're too image image-conscious with idols. There are some idols that seem fun but a lot feel restricted because they want an idol to have a perfect image. The lack of variety could be caused of that but I think aiming for perfection is making idols connect less with audiences. I do think some of the traits an idol show does feel less authentic but maybe I feel this way due to following kpop for many years
Wouldn't this statement corroborate the OP's one though? Artists debut because they're pretty/have some other quality but are of lower quality regarding their singing/writing, then some fans will usually wave it off or not care because as you said, it is more of a entertainment and aesthetic medium than the conventional ones, and by the end of it you end up creating a cycle where the artist is either mid or worse, he doesn't develop because the fans do not care and will spend their money anyways, thus the company will also not improve said situation, and in the end the scene ends up becoming very mediocre and earning even more of a reputation for being 'plastic' and 'manufactured'
To be honest, there are some idols that are incredibly talented and bring a lot to their groups but still falter as soloists.
Wouldn't this statement corroborate the OP's one though? Artists debut because they're pretty/have some other quality but are of lower quality regarding their singing/writing, then some fans will usually wave it off or not care because as you said, it is more of a entertainment and aesthetic medium than the conventional ones, and by the end of it you end up creating a cycle where the artist is either mid or worse, he doesn't develop because the fans do not care and will spend their money anyways, thus the company will also not improve said situation, and in the end the scene ends up becoming very mediocre and earning even more of a reputation for being 'plastic' and 'manufactured'.
Different issue. Jihyo can sing well, dance well, has had songwriting and composing credits to her name from a pretty early age for a kpop idol, and notably improved as a performer after debut but needs the group all the same. Nayeon might have been able to make it as soloist on her own but none of the others.
Also, I would like to add it's okay if line distribution is uneven because lines do not need to be distribute evenly. One thing that intrigued me in jpop they'll have songs that are mainly for certain members and it will have an uneven line distribution. I remember kpop fans were angry at a jpop group for doing that but it makes perfect sense to do that. Certain songs a group perform doesn't need the vocals of certain members and kpop should consider that more. I think the issue with that is kpop fans aren't ready for that because I always see trending on sns when an idol gets limited line distribution.
This is facts, I noticed that more when I saw a meme of "That chilling moment in K-pop when you're about to hear the worst rap bar of your entire life." Because there's lots of artists who do not sing well, are not extremely good at dancing, but at the same time need to have their own spot on a song or else the fanbase will riot and say they're being mistreated. This ends up creating this weird thing where the idol is relegated to rapping, which is something that some make clear on the songs that they're not proficient at, and also gets some slight criticism, though not so much on the K-pop scene, of being "rappers" but never actually writing their own lyrics, meaning that they get the worst of both worlds in the sense that their lines will potentially suck and be seen as an afterthought, and also that the artist himself doesn't have the ability to write his own lines, nor the potential to have any input on the lines that will be feeded to him.
I agree with your unpopular opnion that they're too image image-conscious with idols. There are some idols that seem fun but a lot feel restricted because they want an idol to have a perfect image. The lack of variety could be caused of that but I think aiming for perfection is making idols connect less with audiences. I do think some of the traits an idol show does feel less authentic but maybe I feel this way due to following kpop for many years
Yeah, something I noticed recently is that I actually liked very much when idols acted silly and did more variety outside of their own comfort zones, like the guys from Super Juniors who are funny as hell together, and their content ended up driving me to listen to more of their stuff and connect with them due to their personalities. There have always been these more 'stoic' groups like EXO, but I think the problem is that they're not as engaging at all, like, I love EXO and they're my second favorite group, but their variety content is just not it (Outside of Baekhyun and some others), and that is okay, but it becomes kinda sad when MOST groups end up becoming like them without having their qualities suc as their vocals and star power.
Different issue. Jihyo can sing well, dance well, has had songwriting and composing credits to her name from a pretty early age for a kpop idol, and notably improved as a performer after debut but needs the group all the same. Nayeon might have been able to make it as soloist on her own but none of the others.
Yeah, I'd agree that Solo work isn't for everyone for a variety of reasons, and the person simply could be not interested in pursuing, and that is completely fine by me. My only problem comes from the fact that some fans want albums and solo work from artists that they personally LIKE and Idolize, regardless of the quality that would come from said idol, and if said project fail, they'll be the first ones to say the company is mistreating/mismanaging the idol, not understanding that there was never any organic demand for their work in the first place.
Different issue. Jihyo can sing well, dance well, has had songwriting and composing credits to her name from a pretty early age for a kpop idol, and notably improved as a performer after debut but needs the group all the same. Nayeon might have been able to make it as soloist on her own but none of the others.
This one is tricky for me. I think Jihyo is a weird case we kind of don't know how she'll do as a soloist. I liked her debut but "killin me good" was a weak title track imo. She sold a lot of units (550K+) but was that because of Onces? However, Her title track didn't chart that well in Korea. I think she would've done much better if she picked a better title track, and that could help us know if she's soloist material. On the other hand, Nayeon started off strong with Pop and the results show in both sales and chart. Her follow up also did well, and I agree she's proven that she might not need Twice active to have a successful solo career. I need to see Jihyo get another chance and pick a better title track because I think there's potential.
I agree that Jihyo most likely needs the group active to have succesful solo career but Nayeon's name most likely holds enough weight where she might not need group. I think this is the tough reality for most groups and fans need to realize that better together than apart.
This is facts, I noticed that more when I saw a meme of "That chilling moment in K-pop when you're about to hear the worst rap bar of your entire life." Because there's lots of artists who do not sing well, are not extremely good at dancing, but at the same time need to have their own spot on a song or else the fanbase will riot and say they're being mistreated. This ends up creating this weird thing where the idol is relegated to rapping, which is something that some make clear on the songs that they're not proficient at, and also gets some slight criticism, though not so much on the K-pop scene, of being "rappers" but never actually writing their own lyrics, meaning that they get the worst of both worlds in the sense that their lines will potentially suck and be seen as an afterthought, and also that the artist himself doesn't have the ability to write his own lines, nor the potential to have any input on the lines that will be feeded to him.
I think the rapper role in kpop is probably the biggest offender of my opinion. There's so many kpop songs that get ruined due to the cringy rap line they need to add due to making line distribution even. I think fans need to accept certain songs doesn't require even line distribution. I think it's most likely tough to condition fans to accept that but I think quality of music would improve if companies don't restrict themselves to even line distribution.
I don't like this trend of seeing all idols starting solo careers. They are free to do what they want of course, but I think most of them are not cut out for solo careers. Do some sub unit instead pls.
The term "nugu" must stop being used as an insult.
I prefer to have one full album per year rather than two mini albums.
I think the rapper role in kpop is probably the biggest offender of my opinion. There's so many kpop songs that get ruined due to the cringy rap line they need to add due to making line distribution even. I think fans need to accept certain songs doesn't require even line distribution. I think it's most likely tough to condition fans to accept that but I think quality of music would improve if companies don't restrict themselves to even line distribution.
I truly do not even understand WHY they do this, like, BIGBANG and Block B work with Rap because they have actual Rappers who signed up for that and clearly appreciate the craft. Some company executives must have seen that rap was popular and didn't need to have that much focus on vocals and thought 'Oh, just lemme ruin this whole thing real quick.'
It comes back to our original point though, at a time where we desperately need more SHINee's, BtoB's, EXO's, and TVXQ's, all we're getting are some TEMU versions of lineups that ain't it. They're UNWILLINGLY copying a formula not because is good, but because they think adding more 'variety' on the groups will work, not understanding that it would be better to have a group fully focusing on vocals and be A- on that area and weaker on the rest rather than a 'diverse' group that is B- on their vocals and a C- on their rapping.
I don't understand the appeal of a million vlogs/variety shows/etc. It's baffling to me that people spend so much free on not just watching it, but crave and demand more. Imo this all just feeds into the already way too parasocial aspects of kpop and is unnecessary. A video and an interview here and there sure! But do we really need new hours and hours ALL the time? I don't get the appeal and its popularity shocks me.
And I really agree with Daisy about chatting aps. I think knowing your place in a celebrity-fan dynamic is important. But in kpop especially there's many lines always being blurred and it's genuinely off-putting. I adore my faves too and like to think highly of them as people, but I don't start "missing them" just because they haven't updated social media in a week.. These things are so aggressively parasocial and unhealthy.
A lot of opinions here are not unpopular maybe controversial
-If a rapper has low stamina, they can't be called a good rapper
How would they survive a rap battle?
It would be an ultimate embarrasment
-Many aren't in k-pop "for the music", most k-pop songs aren't impressive quality-wise. Being catchy is more than enough.
Maybe this is more of a pet peeve than an opinion: I don't think groups should get props for taking risks they knew they couldn't pull off.
A group with weak singers shouldn't be praised for having difficult songs/ no backtrack if they sound terrible and didn't make an effort to improve their vocals
A dancer with 2 left feet shouldn't be praised to doing difficult choreo if it looks like they're seizing on stage.
It's not risky when failure is pretty much guaranteed, just stupid
I might get in trouble with this one
Blackpink solo efforts exposed the group for being just average in many things, and they work better as a unit to hide their major flaws..
It feels like a lot of it was a waste because both Jennie and Lisa put a lot of resources into marketing and breaking into the market and they sold less units than Jihyo and Nayeon. The twice members didn't even market to the US, so how did they both end up with more sales than Jennie and Lisa?
It might be harsh to say, but I don't think they'll breakthrough in the west because the pop scene is too hard in 2025 compared to when blackpink was at their peak. They waited too long to start their solo careers and should've done this a couple of years ago. They especially Lisa shouldn't forget their roots and market towards where they're popular. For example Lisa should focus more on southeast asia rather than neglect it for promotion because I don't think she has "it" to make it in the west.
Lipsync is embarrassing and shows that you're lazy and dont care about your craft. That's a huge dealbreaker for me when following a group (not 10-20% lipsync, maybe you're sick sometimes, or the show in question doesn't allow live. Shit happens. But groups that do it >50% of the time are so embarrassing).
Also, Mid vocalists singing live > good vocalists lazily lipsyncing.
Lipsync is embarrassing and shows that you're lazy and care about your craft. That's a huge dealbreaker for me when following a group (not 10-20% lipsync, maybe you're sick sometimes, or the show in question doesn't allow live. Shit happens
But groups that do it >50% of the time are so embarrassing).
Also, Mid vocalists singing live > good vocalists lazily lipsyncing.
alright which one of yall made a new account 
k-pop stans just need to enjoy k-pop for what it is. it's all manufactured, your faves aren't that great of dancers, they aren't that good at singing, and aren't all going to become "real artists" and that's okay.
j-pop is superior that's my unpopular opinion 
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Blackpink solo efforts exposed the group for being just average in many things, and they work better as a unit to hide their major flaws..
It feels like a lot of it was a waste because both Jennie and Lisa put a lot of resources into marketing and breaking into the market and they sold less units than Jihyo and Nayeon. The twice members didn't even market to the US, so how did they both end up with more sales than Jennie and Lisa?
It might be harsh to say, but I don't think they'll breakthrough in the west because the pop scene is too hard in 2025 compared to when blackpink was at their peak. They waited too long to start their solo careers and should've done this a couple of years ago. They especially Lisa shouldn't forget their roots and market towards where they're popular. For example Lisa should focus more on southeast asia rather than neglect it for promotion because I don't think she has "it" to make it in the west.
Okay I don’t wanna sound like a crazy stan but you can’t be seriously comparing Lisa and Jennie’s solos to twice members..? Jennie outsold both of them and they both have heavily outstreamed them and outpaced them in popularity
Lisa never neglected her south East Asian fans, she did a lot of promo for her album IN Thai and had her fan meeting all across Sea… saying she forgot her roots is actually disrespectful tbh because she’s been paying homage to Thailand her whole solo career
They did very well for their first solo albums, and from now on I think it’s kind an obvious that bp will be second place to their solo careers now. It wasn’t possible for them to start their solo careers earlier
j-pop is superior that's my unpopular opinion
Anime intros and endings are superior. 
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Blackpink solo efforts exposed the group for being just average in many things, and they work better as a unit to hide their major flaws..
It feels like a lot of it was a waste because both Jennie and Lisa put a lot of resources into marketing and breaking into the market and they sold less units than Jihyo and Nayeon. The twice members didn't even market to the US, so how did they both end up with more sales than Jennie and Lisa?
It might be harsh to say, but I don't think they'll breakthrough in the west because the pop scene is too hard in 2025 compared to when blackpink was at their peak. They waited too long to start their solo careers and should've done this a couple of years ago. They especially Lisa shouldn't forget their roots and market towards where they're popular. For example Lisa should focus more on southeast asia rather than neglect it for promotion because I don't think she has "it" to make it in the west.
Jennie sold 56k units without vinyl and interms of longevity, it already surpassed Nayeon album on billboard 200.
Lisa and Jennie albums did better than Nayeon and jihyo in european countries.
And their streaming numbers >>>>>>>>
Lisa did fan meeting tour in SEA countries.
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