Since Hybe is stalking SM and knows their schedule, I don't understand how they could have the confidence to send Illit against Aespa

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those aespa muscle photos are probably done by hybe to paint them less attractive. when they don't find any flows in gorgeous girlies they invent them through photoshop.

for example wonyoung was also done dirty with edited photos which made her appear bony, skinnier than she is; or even many Liz photos which fat shamed her were edited as well.

i also remember these edited photos of sullyoon like she had wrinkles and bad skin or smth.

same thing happened with haerin as well. i remember during their debut year or 2023, there was a major buzz around her beauty, people even started calling her the top visual and stuff and just days after there were articles about her about how she had small eyes and her beauty was all due to eyelenses.

my poor baby even refused to appear without her lenses for a while, i remember she checked them compilsively in a new jeans video following this events. she a minor when it happened.

same thing happened with Danielle when there was a buzz about her looking like a doll and having perfect proportions, the next days there was a article about her predebut days when she was 13 and going through puberty, calling her fat or smth.

hybe really seem to hate women it's disgusting and maddening to know there are out there harrassing, bullying and body shaming young girls non stop.

somebody really needs to sue them .

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They tried to paint Wonhee as the 2nd Wonyoung. What are they smoking at Hybe? It also makes sense why Illit concept changed drastically to center around Wonhee.

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They tried to paint Wonhee as the 2nd Wonyoung. What are they smoking at Hybe? It also makes sense why Illit concept changed drastically to center around Wonhee.

I think they are not very rational, and more emotional

That explains most of the problems

They can't even think of an excuse

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Knetz have notice that HYBE tried to do viral marketing to take credit for Karina Solo success with "UP"

The way someone in this company seems to have her on their mind.... even tracking her carrying a watermelon

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those aespa muscle photos are probably done by hybe to paint them less attractive. when they don't find any flows in gorgeous girlies they invent them through photoshop.

for example wonyoung was also done dirty with edited photos which made her appear bony, skinnier than she is; or even many Liz photos which fat shamed her were edited as well.

i also remember these edited photos of sullyoon like she had wrinkles and bad skin or smth.

same thing happened with haerin as well. i remember during their debut year or 2023, there was a major buzz around her beauty, people even started calling her the top visual and stuff and just days after there were articles about her about how she had small eyes and her beauty was all due to eyelenses.

my poor baby even refused to appear without her lenses for a while, i remember she checked them compilsively in a new jeans video following this events. she a minor when it happened.

same thing happened with Danielle when there was a buzz about her looking like a doll and having perfect proportions, the next days there was a article about her predebut days when she was 13 and going through puberty, calling her fat or smth.

hybe really seem to hate women it's disgusting and maddening to know there are out there harrassing, bullying and body shaming young girls non stop.

somebody really needs to sue them .

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These actually aren't photoshopped. They just found the pictures of each member with the right lighting and angles which make a world of difference. I know because I used to be a bodybuilder. I could look like a complete different person with the right lighting. Iirc Ningning talked about hers at least, that she gains muscle very easily. It's not surprising though, because they apparently all work out a ton, especially Giselle, who says she's addicted to the gym.

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They tried to paint Wonhee as the 2nd Wonyoung. What are they smoking at Hybe? It also makes sense why Illit concept changed drastically to center around Wonhee.

Wonyoung stans on twitter are brutal

In fairness to Hybe, their fake it until you make it techniques helped them create the biggest idol group in the world.

They probably used similar strategies back when Exo and BTS were competing, and as we all know BTS crushed Exo.

Bang PD probably felt like he could do the same with Le Sserafim and then in an emergency with NJ 2,0

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They sent LSF against Idle coming off Tomboy back in 2022. Both Antifragile and Nxde had the same comeback day.

It's kind of weird they've done it twice now for their group's sophomore effort.

I dunno, just seems like that's their modus operandi.

I guess they are taking a page from YG's book. YG used to do that a lot. I remember them pairing up 2NE1 against SNSD in 2014 (Comeback Home vs Mr Mr), it reached the point where even when SM posponed SNSD's comeback, YG postponed 2NE1's too to make sure they'll still overlap lol. they also pulled the same trick the next year with Big Bang's Made vs EXO. it doesn't matter which group was more popular or successful but from YG's perspectiven pitting his top groups against SM top groups sparked fans' competitiveness which made them work harder to outdo the other fandom, not to mention the competition's effect on media and the general public.

the mere suggestion that, say, illit or any other new gg was "going against" Aespa will get people's attention and curiosity, which will make people check them out and increase the chance of new fans liking them and buying their music. it is a time old practice to make your groups come back around the same time as the most popular artists, to maximise attention by proxy. just the mere fact a top group ir performing in a music show potentially increases the viewership of the show

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I guess they are taking a page from YG's book. YG used to do that a lot. I remember them pairing up 2NE1 against SNSD in 2014 (Comeback Home vs Mr Mr), it reached the point where even when SM posponed SNSD's comeback, YG postponed 2NE1's too to make sure they'll still overlap lol. they also pulled the same trick the next year with Big Bang's Made vs EXO. it doesn't matter which group was more popular or successful but from YG's perspectiven pitting his top groups against SM top groups sparked fans' competitiveness which made them work harder to outdo the other fandom, not to mention the competition's effect on media and the general public.

the mere suggestion that, say, illit or any other new gg was "going against" Aespa will get people's attention and curiosity, which will make people check them out and increase the chance of new fans liking them and buying their music. it is a time old practice to make your groups come back around the same time as the most popular artists, to maximise attention by proxy. just the mere fact a top group ir performing in a music show potentially increases the viewership of the show

I remember all those eras lol

But imma be honest at least yg groups could compete with them and were both top tier

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There was an incident last year where Eunchae accidentally slipped up, revealing that she knew Aespa's comeback would be in November, even though it hadn’t been announced and still a secret. THE AESPA GIRLS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT LOL! She looked panicked, and to cover it up, they claimed that the broadcasting station must have known about it. However, since it was only September at the time, it look sus ngl. With the recent reports being exposed, well we finally know that Hybe just that obsessed with Sm especially Aespa that they know everything about them in advance.

What I don't understand is, if the company knew Aespa's comeback date, why would Hybe still send Illit to compete against them? Illit’s comeback was announced right after Aespa's on the same freaking day, and 'coincidentally', both groups have the same comeback date too. If this doesn’t prove how obsessed Hybe is with Sm, I don't know what does. It feels like Hybe deliberately put Illit against Aespa, thinking they could overshadow Aespa, and winning against Sm. Magnetic is such a successful song this year, but I don't know if that could have clouded their judgment that much.

Considering Bang Pd asked Mhj using Nj to step on Aespa before, it now seems like he’s trying the same with Illit. Poor girls.

Does anyone think about the pressure illit is under with such high expectations to beat Aespa!

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In fairness to Hybe, their fake it until you make it techniques helped them create the biggest idol group in the world.

They probably used similar strategies back when Exo and BTS were competing, and as we all know BTS crushed Exo.

Bang PD probably felt like he could do the same with Le Sserafim and then in an emergency with NJ 2,0

I don't think BTS crushed Exo especially when their success probably started with Exo awards being given to BTS to kill their morale and momentum.

Also, SM just didn't invest in promoting Exo in variety shows and social media while BH invested in that big time for BTS.

One group just grew bigger and the other stagnated to some extent but it wasn't crushed.

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They sent the lambs to slaughter

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But if it's actually true, Hybe really did their girls dirty, and the timing of the report leaks are so unfortunate for Illit. Feel sorry for them tbh, being caught up in Hybe's stupidity.

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I was looking at my unread posts and stumbled upon this

DAMN

(as someone pointed out, it's probably the lighting and angle, but DAMN)