MHJ is the one who wants to leave, so I think there are lots of people who are happy for her to leave.
A win-win if she leaves: she can have what she wants and the drama will be over. She can take NJ too if they want to leave with her.
And peace gets restored to the world of Kpop...... until the next day when someone eats a strawberry in the wrong way or something like that.
As for HYBE, I enjoyed things much more when it was still Big Hit and my faves didn't get dragged into random drama like this. Hope they will not keep adding groups and be more careful who they allow in, as well as become more professional. Hire some high level professionals in all departments instead of hobbyists eager to debut groups left and right.
I mean the issue is between MHJ and Bang PD (maybe Belift CEO but does anyone know this man)
Didn't even know that it was this much.
In that case, they are still very mild to her. Probably best to cut their losses and let her and the group (if they want) leave. Let them sort themselves out from then on without the HYBE money if that's what they want.
And HYBE will need to have a good analysis of why they didn't deal with this in a much better way.
bang/pjw did more damage to hybe than mhj ever did. and there is no comparaison. both of them deserves to get fired. asap.
mhj made lots of money for them. and gave them good rep and standing in the market with the success she had with NJs.
one could only imagine how much more money she could have made for them with a ador bg.
even the bad mhj instigated against them was purely for self defence and independance from ill intentioned and unfair parent compagny's mistreatement.
hybe with bang is bound to end up ruined and bankrupted.
he lucked out with bts but everything he touches turns to ashes. his scootify numbers wan't be able to hide his downfall for long.
Scootify payola coast ALOT.
Why is Min Hee-jin the only one in the Hybe vs. Ador drama called out to leave (or be kicked out) for due to unprofessional behavior and allegedly harming the company, while Hybe CEO Park Jiwon and BSH are not held to the same standard?
Why is she the sole individual being targeted for lying and dragging unrelated people into the conflict, yet the higher-ups at Hybe escape similar consequences, even though they had their fair share of stupid decisions too ?
Very strange…
I think it's because of her image it's the same bs smoke screen people throw up to say man gets love when woman gets hate. That's a bullshit lie. It's similar to the whole Hyuna situation, people saying her bf isn't getting the same level of scrutiny. Yeah he has the reason she got more is her image. Same here with the CEO of ador you claim you are original and don't copy etc and none of the shady crap then suddenly you are doing exactly what you say you don't especially after seeing the whole fiasco unfold before you. Same shit Hyuna is in claims feminist etc knows her bf had a bad past still choose him knowing so. Certain people getting more criticism than others is normal in these situations. This would be like you saying publicly " im against thieves, then go knowing date a thief and intend to marry them fully knowing so," yeah you'd rightly get shat on for it hypocrisy ticks people off more than the initial crime itself
Oh? Where's your numbers and facts? Usually if a executive fucks up the shareholders have them replaced ASAP but for some reason they haven't done so and still have faith in them. Now as for your claims, you got real hard evidence or is this bias? Think like a actual business person not a kpop fan. Then go recheck the numbers
Display MoreMHJ is the one who wants to leave, so I think there are lots of people who are happy for her to leave.
A win-win if she leaves: she can have what she wants and the drama will be over. She can take NJ too if they want to leave with her.
And peace gets restored to the world of Kpop...... until the next day when someone eats a strawberry in the wrong way or something like that.
As for HYBE, I enjoyed things much more when it was still Big Hit and my faves didn't get dragged into random drama like this. Hope they will not keep adding groups and be more careful who they allow in, as well as become more professional. Hire some high level professionals in all departments instead of hobbyists eager to debut groups left and right.
Strawberry is old news
Now the crime is eating hamburger with forks
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Is there any criminal act the Hybe CEO did that I wasn’t aware of? I’m sure if he aired out Hybe’s business or planning to do that with outside investors, Hybe will be sacking him too.
Not that we know of except making a lot of extremely bad decisions regarding MHJ. A couple of us think he will go as well, once MHJ gets kicked, because he isn't really helping Hybe or any of its sub-labels.
None that people are aware of but there's no such thing as ethical billionaire.
He’s not a billionaire
Are there really that many who want MHJ to leave, or is it just a vocal few online?
But if so, I guess a number of the people don't really care about the people involved but just want the drama to end, and the easiest way is if MHJ leaves instead of the big main guy of BH/HYBE - regardless who was more morally in the right or not.
I think it's because of her image it's the same bs smoke screen people throw up to say man gets love when woman gets hate. That's a bullshit lie. It's similar to the whole Hyuna situation, people saying her bf isn't getting the same level of scrutiny. Yeah he has the reason she got more is her image. Same here with the CEO of ador you claim you are original and don't copy etc and none of the shady crap then suddenly you are doing exactly what you say you don't especially after seeing the whole fiasco unfold before you. Same shit Hyuna is in claims feminist etc knows her bf had a bad past still choose him knowing so. Certain people getting more criticism than others is normal in these situations. This would be like you saying publicly " im against thieves, then go knowing date a thief and intend to marry them fully knowing so," yeah you'd rightly get shat on for it hypocrisy ticks people off more than the initial crime itself
Isn't this just more gaslighting? Even if I get the point you're trying to make and even if there are individual cases where the situation is different, I thought it was already a proven and done case in many research reports all over the world, that women often gets punished, blamed and criticized harder and with more lasting effects than men, especially in patriarchal societies which, let's face it, is by far the vast majority of nations in the world.
This is nothing new, this has been the default norm since ages past, like for example the Middle Ages where it was almost always women who got burnt at the stakes for being accused of being 'witches' and the cause of everything that went wrong in a village.
I don’t think it has as much to do with gender as some may insinuate. I think it has more to do with the optics, which matter the most in the public court of opinion.
MHJ had a reputation as a creative director, albeit a controversial public figure, even before her role as CEO of Ador. All eyes were on her. Every creative controversy the NewJeans had been embroiled in, the blame would fall on her, not on the members, third-party stylists, or anyone else. This is in stark contrast to other groups, where the blame is often split among the people involved.
She’s also very boastful about how much creative control she has over the group. She essentially lives and dies by the sword. Anything good that happens, she gets credit for. Anything bad that happens, she gets the blame.
Isn't this just more gaslighting? Even if I get the point you're trying to make and even if there are individual cases where the situation is different, I thought it was already a proven and done case in many research reports all over the world, that women often gets punished, blamed and criticized harder and with more lasting effects than men, especially in patriarchal societies which, let's face it, is by far the vast majority of nations in the world.
This is nothing new, this has been the default norm since ages past, like for example the Middle Ages where it was almost always women who got burnt at the stakes for being accused of being 'witches' and the cause of everything that went wrong in a village.
No it's not more gaslighting this isn't a gender issue. It's just coincidence both people in the situations happened to be female and built their image and was outspoken about being for or against a certain narrative, but then turned out to be hypocritical. If the same happened now and the two were men they'd get the same treatment. Like I said being a hypocrite is often worse than the initial crime. People hate this more. Because people inherently see a rules for thee but not for me scenario, people feel cheated.
I know but OP mentioned both.
I don’t think it has as much to do with gender as some may insinuate. I think it has more to do with the optics, which matter the most in the public court of opinion.
MHJ had a reputation as a creative director, albeit a controversial public figure, even before her role as CEO of Ador. All eyes were on her. Every creative controversy the NewJeans had been embroiled in, the blame would fall on her, not on the members, third-party stylists, or anyone else. This is in stark contrast to other groups, where the blame is often split among the people involved.
She’s also very boastful about how much creative control she has over the group. She essentially lives and dies by the sword. Anything good that happens, she gets credit for. Anything bad that happens, she gets the blame.
Yeah I see that.
The only thing that bothers me here is the lack of criticism Hybe gets.
Display MoreYHS was already out… but he slowly came crawling back.
JYP kinda creepy, but hasn’t done anything outrageous yet.
But but....YHS is plastered all over BM promotions, i hate it like A LOT 
(I love BM members though 
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I am on fence about JYP because he has cult allegations lol and well no cult comes out clean - but yeah nothing outrageous "yet" 
Also both of them have dated ideas for idol promotions >_>
No it's not more gaslighting this isn't a gender issue. It's just coincidence both people in the situations happened to be female and built their image and was outspoken about being for or against a certain narrative, but then turned out to be hypocritical. If the same happened now and the two were men they'd get the same treatment. Like I said being a hypocrite is often worse than the initial crime. People hate this more. Because people inherently see a rules for thee but not for me scenario, people feel cheated.
How do you feel cheated when you didn’t believed her and even spend weeks arguing that the plagiarism accusations are baseless etc. ?
I do believe bias it at place, but I wasn’t necessarily thinking of misogyny as a main reason here, but more about people’s blind loyalty behind a company that used them as shields to hide their shady tactics.
Since I don’t follow BM that excessively, I thankfully didn’t saw his face that often. You can tell he is trying to rebrand himself with all the attention to BM and even the 2ne1 comeback . I mean i love it and take it, but I see right through him lol.
I just don’t want him to be involved to much with BM, because if gets enrolled in another controversy, it will affect them too.
I do think promotions got better in YG… unfortunately i wish that was the case with when BP was active too…..
JYP needs to step up the game with their GG‘s real quick, cause that downfall is to hard to watch
Are you asking ironically? Because the answer is so obvious. One made BTS, the other said "mean" things about them. That's all that matters to them. That and the 16th floor.
Are you asking ironically? Because the answer is so obvious. One made BTS, the other said "mean" things about them. That's all that matters to them. That and the 16th floor.
I really want to know what’s all the fuss about the 16th floor? Why people so obsessed with it?
I really want to know what’s all the fuss about the 16th floor? Why people so obsessed with it?
However dumb you think it is, it's even dumber.
They're offended Ador is on the highest office floor, one level above BTS's. "Privilege" or whatever
Even though Ador is the only label that shares their floor with other offices, a library, doesn't have the same security measures as the other labels because of it and it's not even the top floor of the Hybe Building. They just want NewJeans below their faves in every way possible even if it's detrimental to them 
However dumb you think it is, it's even dumber.
They're offended Ador is on the highest office floor, one level above BTS's. "Privilege" or whatever
Even though Ador is the only label that shares their floor with other offices, a library, doesn't have the same security measures as the other labels because of it and it's not even the top floor of the Hybe Building. They just want NewJeans below their faves in every way possible even if it's detrimental to them
You must be joking ?
It's not even the dumbest thing they've gotten worked up over in this mess. Not even close 
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