What do you guys think about the relationship between newjeans members and min heejin ( no hate or fighting, just your honest opinion)

MHJ just using them tbh

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"Please share your unbiased opinion"

I don't understand why people have a big problem with their relationship when all kpop CEOs use their idols like she is using the girls like if jype, YGE, sme and hybe CEOs were this much hated I would understand, but they have a way bigger issue with just them when all CEOs use their artists as shields

Even YHS wasn't this much hated and this is a big problem imo

She's using them.

It would cost too much to buy out their contracts and IP, and new Korean law prohibits them from using the same concept for 3 years.

Her end game since the audit, has been to exit with a big payout, without a non-compete, and without them.

It's so beautifull . Specially artistically but also on a human level.

Never seen something like that in kpop . Or anywhere really...

And nobody, nobody is gonna taint that love and that beauty .

A ceo should never be stanned as a kpop idol

I dont know the starship, source music, belift, yuehua, etc, CEOs, and it should stay that way

i dont find the relationship very professional

but based on what i know about mhj it's understandable

seems like treats the members well and they like her so who am i to judge

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YG is a much more despicable person but in some ways, I think she's much worse as a CEO

YHS disbanded/sabotaged a group to marry the member, what could be worst?

LSM had slave contracts

In JYPE trainees got beaten physically in the past

How can she be worst than this?

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YHS disbanded/sabotaged a group to marry the member, what could be worst?

LSM had slave contracts

In JYPE trainees got beaten physically in the past

How can she be worst than this?

People are always much harsher on women, mostly women themselves too and they don’t even understand, it's inconscious.

What you wrote perfectly proves that.

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People are always much harsher on women, mostly women themselves too and they don’t even understand, it's inconscious.

What you wrote perfectly proves that.

As a woman I can't accept MHJ being more hated than these trash guys if we are gonna hate then let's hate them aaaaaall!!

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All 3 companies were beating their trainees back in the day but that's besides the point.

I'm thinking more of what's happened in the last decade

This woman never spoke about the members or credited them for anything until this whole shitshow started. Ever. Every interview she did was "me me me me my idea" at length and whenever the question turned to NewJeans, she had nothing to say. Now, she conveniently can't stop talking about them even as she sees it actively hurting them and their reputation. Even YG at least gave BigBang and 2ne1 credit during public interviews even if he was a nightmare bts. When Burning Sun was going on, he publicly stepped down and sticked to working behind the scenes because it was better for everyone, she is digging in her heels and using those girls as a shield nonstop. YG has been getting just as much backlash for trying to use Baemon to wash his image

And her relationship with NewJeans and their parents is far more inappropriate than the one yg has with his artists.

There is a degree of sexism but she deserves everything she's been getting. YG and LSM just don't get enough

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YGE thanked BB and 2ne1 bc they actually created something with them. In MHJ case it was her ideas and she fought to have the girls in her team so even though she never credited them, she also made sure to choose them instead of going with Hybe's flow and not debut them. Tbf their case is different, MHJ was the brain and alone. GD gave his songs to BB debut and for the rest of their careers so obviously it's different.

And if MHJ steps down do you know what will happen to NJ? A military hiatus. Do you know why YHS stepped down? Bc he was covering his artists drug use and BS scandal is something that no other company had and I doubt we'll see something similar again. He stepped down bc his company was going to be affected by his mistakes. MHJ would step down bc of Hybe lies and risking even a NJ disbandment bc Bang PD obviously has a problem with NJ and their success.

Her relationship is manipulative, this is know, but all CEOs do it.

Edit: I never saw any interview about YGE trainees being beaten up physically so..

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As a woman I can't accept MHJ being more hated than these trash guys if we are gonna hate then let's hate them aaaaaall!!

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Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about. The way this woman talks, you'd never know that NewJeans are active involved in the creative process and credited in nearly every song they've released. There are things NewJeans has come up with like debuting with no teasers that she never credited them for.

The only things she would say about them were praises for being obedient and malleable. Not even an appraisal of their skills.

So instead she actively goes out of her way to further associate herself with NewJeans so that if she goes down, they go down with her and that's somehow better?

No CEO has a relationship to the extent of their artists regularly going to their houses casually, giving presents to their parents and having personal relationships with their siblings, a severe emotional dependency where teenage girls are calling her crying in the middle of the night, feeling the need to comfort her—a grown ass woman in her 40s— and feeling like they can't go on without her because it's obvious she's been telling them that they can't.

It's not manipulative, it's outright grooming. And I'm sorry but there's a huge issue with anybody, man or woman, in a position of power that has highly dependent young women under them, praising them for being submissive while also telling their female staff to be more submissive and submit to sexual harassment

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why are you refering to these made up chats to make an opinion on mhj ?

just say nothing if you haven't got a better source really.

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Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about. The way this woman talks, you'd never know that NewJeans are active involved in the creative process and credited in nearly every song they've released. There are things NewJeans has come up with like debuting with no teasers that she never credited them for.

The only things she would say about them were praises for being obedient and malleable. Not even an appraisal of their skills.

This isn't true. I've read almost every MHJ interview, which are very, very long reads, mind you.

She has given credit to the girls, from talking about their potential for growth to their ability to grow as individual artists. She's even said that the process of selecting each member was meticulous and exhaustive, more than even the industry standard, which directly contradicts the notion that any trainee could've just been shoved into NewJeans.

We also have plenty of behind the scenes video showing how supportive she is during every phase of the creative process, and especially during the studio recording sessions. Compare MHJ patient and supportive guidance and encouragement to how JYP reduced Itzy to tears during their sessions.

The members are also already being credited as writers, particularly Danielle, so MHJ is letting them cut their teeth on the things they're interested in learning.

I think you're way too harsh on her and not really being objective about the many ways she has supported the members without any nefarious agendas attached.

They're well treated, get plenty of time to rest between busy schedules, have frequent vacations, and their parents are even with them for multiple schedules--nobody does that. Except MHJ.

MHJ is high drama and not just since she is at HYBE.

I presict drama in the future as well

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The "made up chats" that she could only say were "out of context" when she had so much to say about Hybe even if it was besides the point?

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no comment.

go rather believe the memory recollection of that convinced liar of a wreaker rather than trust njs members and their parents. please do so.

if that's a reliable source for your standarts what more can i say...

I always thought It was disgusting, never liked this woman and most of the time I prefer to pretend she doesn't exist.

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Yeah this is exactly what I'm talking about. The way this woman talks, you'd never know that NewJeans are active involved in the creative process and credited in nearly every song they've released. There are things NewJeans has come up with like debuting with no teasers that she never credited them for.

The only things she would say about them were praises for being obedient and malleable. Not even an appraisal of their skills.

So instead she actively goes out of her way to further associate herself with NewJeans so that if she goes down, they go down with her and that's somehow better?

No CEO has a relationship to the extent of their artists regularly going to their houses casually, giving presents to their parents and having personal relationships with their siblings, a severe emotional dependency where teenage girls are calling her crying in the middle of the night, feeling the need to comfort her—a grown ass woman in her 40s— and feeling like they can't go on without her because it's obvious she's been telling them that they can't.

It's not manipulative, it's outright grooming. And I'm sorry but there's a huge issue with anybody, man or woman, in a position of power that has highly dependent young women under them, praising them for being submissive while also telling their female staff to be more submissive and submit to sexual harassment. Min HeeJin has made it clear she doesn't respect them and if her creepy ass VP was making moves on them, I doubt she'd have done anything to protect them if she's telling her other staff to die for complaining about him

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Grooming? How? I'm not that deep in NJ to know.

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She has not. I've read and watched the same ones you've linked bragging about her and she barely ever mentions them outside of something vague or praising them for listening to her.

Saying that Ador made sure that nobody had an overlapping image is not ground breaking nor is it any real praise of NewJeans

For every interview I've linked, there are two I didn't, because nobody here has the attention span to actually sit down, read and comprehend all the thorough breakdowns MHJ gives for her creative process, the formation of NewJeans and even discussions of music theory and the industry as a whole.

She has absolutely mentioned the members before, and she has given them their flowers as well.

There are many excerpts I can find that read similar to the one below:

With NewJeans, I want to [help] them make fun, happy memories—something that they can really look back on and enjoy even when they grow old. They chose to work with me [instead of] going to school. Our contract is for seven years. And seven years is almost like three years of high school and four years of college. So what I said to them in the beginning was, “Think of this as studying with me for seven years.” They’re so young, and I wanted them to think of this experience as studying, and not to focus too much on the numbers.

I think when you’re working with such young girls and [you’re] somebody who owns this business, you have to have an ethical sense of mind. What I wanted to do was, just like school, I wanted to teach them ways that would help them live a really happy life later on.

Min Heejin isn't perfect, but to compare her to the CEOs who have done and continue to do legitimately despicable, scumbag things without any serious repercussions, is extremely unfair. MHJ gets treated worse than actual criminals and groomers.

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She's fostered a relationship with NewJeans and their families that goes well beyond professional. Those girls and their families are extremely emotionally dependent on her and she brags about it

Isn't grooming just used in romantic relationships??

The fact that the newjeans cultists in this forum have to pretend the leaked group chats of that woman never existed for them to still stan than weirdo mhj should tell you everything, those girls have the biggest stockholm syndrome in the industry and mhj is a horrible person.