Why is IVE so weak internationally now? Their spotify streams are worrying me

They still might make it into Spotify Global 200 with 24 hr tracking.

But yeah, MHJ didn't mention Ive in the last week but she did mention about 50 other groups. Its because most of the money is coming from international fans.

I could provide some analysis as to why, but I can't be bothered.

i dunno! if you do let us know we can pitch ideas to starship

They're so over

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They're so over

can they still make money from touring like bg's?

Their leader should appear more in songs, she is hotter compared to wong girl. Idk why half the song is wong doing stuff in their mv.

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Ive fans can't act the most unbothered they want, if I was one of you I will be panicking rn, a girl group with the It girl of the gen and so much potential starting to fall off this early without reason is unprecedented.

They are doing fine so far in touring but their popularity in japan seems decaying and doesn't seem they have too much future on US, that's the 2 biggest touring markets.

interesting

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Their leader should appear more in songs, she is hotter compared to wong girl. Idk why half the song is wong doing stuff in their mv.

I wouldn't say hotter, but has more general public appeal in the West who like curvier body shapes.

They retreated in Japan for some weird reason. I dunno if they are still doing euro-pop still like they have since Love Dive and still targeting Europe, as I only listened to Heya once and cant recall anything.

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I wouldn't say hotter, more has more general public appeal in the West who like curvier body shapes.

Having femenine charms should be considered as being hotter. Wong (their poster girl) doesn't have a mature face imho, i would prefer her over leader in children songs. Also I don't know if I am allowed to say it, but the jobs wong recived has totally changed how she looks compared to her old videos. Why someone so young needed so many things even?

"I can totally understand not pulling the 2M-3M the hybe girl groups get with their Spotify payola"

HEYA filtered streams are low right now, so they would need a massive jump in the few days to enter Spotify Global.

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40% of ive music videos are genuinely just wonyoung face close ups... can't blame them, she is the It girl of this gen and so above the rest in popularity is almost inevitable.

That is what I am saying, it's same thing over and over again, strategy should change, leader should show herself more in mv, I don't think she is unpopular.

Twice bsides don’t get more than that now don’t lie lol

song is not that good

Song is blah, Accendio is even worse. This is the biggest miss since Love Dive.

They did pretty damn well with a megabop like Afterlike iirc.

Givev it some time. You guys didn't learn from Lesserfirm. You started all talk and then days after they charted. They also don't have the payola that hybe ggs have

Less tracking time and a monday release. The streams should increase especially coming back from their US arena tour.

Playlisting doesn't have that much of an impact on daily filtered streams. Magnetic only jumped up by 57K streams the next day after being added to TTH.

I definitely see that IVE isn’t pulling the streams that they did with after like/I AM but it’s only the first day.

They could enter tomorrow but if not then That’s okay too.

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Less tracking time and a monday release. The streams should increase especially coming back from their US arena tour.

True, but mind you we had two other gg’s that had Monday releases and they entered first day.

IVE also had Monday releases before baddie. So I wonder what happened?

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True, but mind you we had two other gg’s that had Monday releases and they entered first day.

IVE also had Monday releases before baddie. So I wonder what happened?

I think the baddie era really hurt them internationally, hope they recover this comeback though.

1. After LIKE - 1,942,939
2. I AM - 1,384,490
3. LOVE DIVE - 1,078,894
4. Kitsch - 1,040,514
5. Baddie - 888,334
6. Either Way - 738,861
7. Off The Record - 701,766

8. ELEVEN - 418,446

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Song is blah, Accendio is even worse. This is the biggest miss since Love Dive.

They did pretty damn well with a megabop like Afterlike iirc.

You had the weirdest taste kcckdm

No playlistings.

They only used to rank when they used to get solid opening playlisting. That's why they don't rank anymore.

Look at IVEs tour, they were never anything special internationally. Just another groups like Idle or Itzy.

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Song is blah, Accendio is even worse. This is the biggest miss since Love Dive.

They did pretty damn well with a megabop like Afterlike iirc.

Did you just call Love Dive a miss??

Starship is not BIg 4. Starship has less resource and know-how for international promotion.
IVE doesn't have so-called "Company fans", which means they are on their own.

So, everything is depends on how good the song is. Therefore, there will be ups and downs.

I don't worry too much because they have solid fanbase in Korea.

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Playlisting doesn't have that much of an impact on daily filtered streams. Magnetic only jumped up by 57K streams the next day after being added to TTH.

The payola is not only playlisting but autoplay, keep up

It's been a thing only kpop know sht about it, it's been abused by certain kpop company though

Ive, Le Sserafim, G idle and NewJeans will always be booked and fed.

Spotify is only one streaming source and they consistently slay YouTube streams

people jumping on newest group now, they're old by kpop standard lol

I think this group has zero chemistry.

Starship/Kakao don't want to give money to Spotify.

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The payola is not only playlisting but autoplay, keep up

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I don’t use Spotify anymore since years because I would get the same songs in auto-play, even tho they were completely different genres that I would always listen to.

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I think this group has zero chemistry.

If you're talking about live performances, yes they're bad. As bad as LSRFM vocals are, that's how bad Ive's dancing/performances are.

But if you're talking interpersonal chemistry, you just havent watched enough of their fanservice content. Theyve gotten a lot more entertaining and comfortable with each other on camera. While LSRFM is full of crackheads, Ive is more about dry humor, both are great tbh.