Now why are they lying calling Sheesh their debut???

But why is this a fandom's fault?

Isn't YG the one claiming this is their debut?

I too thought that YG said that Batter Up was their debut...

I honestly don't know what's an official debut and what's a predebut/prerelease track anymore...

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That account is a fan account. And two, there are many groups in which they add members but don't go calling their songs with the new members "debuts" YG wasn't promoting Batter Up as a pre-debut until it flopped and they needed to rebrand.

Ooohhh ok I thought it was the official account, my bad!

Yeah that's what I said. I remember YG saying they debuted without Ahyeon and she would be added when she was better.

YG said It's their official debut and It's convenient for the fandom to adopt the re-brand, It seems.

Their fandom is made up of Blinks and Blinks are the biggest liars in Kpop so

idk why are blinks thrown under the bus for this

YG has used this tactic before, remember how many times CL debuted and not debuted in US?

It is literally their debut tho

Honestly, Batter Up is their debut and it felt like it rather. Sheesh felt like a comeback like it should be imo.

I'm not saying they can't debut again but everything around their debut is confusing now when YG officially released Batter Up as digital debut single.

When it comes to new gen debuts records and stuff, it's confusing because fans keep saying Sheesh is their debut. So, do we accumulate numbers since from April 1st ?

Lmao. NOthing is more fragile than the ego of a Kpop success stan.

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It is literally their debut tho

Then, what's 'Batter Up'??? I guess that suddenly became invisible to you when posting, huh?

Edit ~ In answering this thread, yes, Sheesh was their Second comeback.

People who ignore Batter Up are just in denial and delusional.

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Then, what's 'Batter Up'??? I guess that just became invisible to you.

Is it first time the first song isn't debut song?

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It is literally their debut tho

Babymonster won the circle chart music awards rookie of the year. Has there been any instances in which a group or an individual has won rookie of the year without debuting?

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Honestly, Batter Up is their debut and it felt like it rather.

Also one thing that is a bit lol to me is their stans keep saying batter up isn't their debut... they literally won a rookie of the year award at an award show in like January... you can't win an award unless you've debuted.

YG was also calling Batter Up their debut especially in the lead up to it's release (if you go to their spotify artist description it talks about how batter up is the fastest DEBUT MV by a kpop group to hit 100M views). They're changing it now which is lol to me especially since they already won that rookie award

Hi,

You all have it wrong.

BABYM0NSTER debuted last year.

This year, it's BABYM0NS7ER.

YG playing chess out here. My man's got this down to the algorithms.

2025: BABYM0NS73R

2026: BA13YMONST312

2027: BA3M0N

2028: 13A3YM0N57312

2029: PINKMONSTERS

2030: 2NEPINKMONSTERS

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-knysom

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Babymonster won the circle chart music awards rookie of the year. Has there been any instances in which a group or an individual has won rookie of the year without debuting?

Idk have to check

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Dreamer, you were there when YG self-inserted himself and promoted Batter Up as their "debut." There was no mention of pre-debut anywhere. Even the post that is still up on IG calls Batter Up their debut. I can name many other ggs that added members who kept pushing through and didn't rebrand their debut because the first one flopped.

Well, I can name one that did. Dreamcatcher. Added member, changed name and literally debuted again.

I mean a member being added to the group doesn't make it a new debut. That's like saying ice cream cake is rv debut instead of happiness. No one does that. Same logic. YG is also pushing this narrative I guess lol?

Also why r people blaming blinks ? Any proof that these r blinks behind the chart accounts?

Listen guys, I get it. The whole situation with Batter Up being called a debut song is weird and receiving. But not prompting a debut song is also weird. How many groups have non promoted debut song? So can we just agree that the entirety of Baemon's debut is weird and not just something specific?

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Dreamcatcher's rebrand is so different from YG's fragile ego. They were called a different group entirely with 5 members, disbanded that group, added two members and debuted with a new name with seven members. That is not at all what happened here and you know it.

Again, Baemon's situation is very unique on its own as well. Like how many groups you know who debuted with no promotion and a member on hiatus?

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I mean a member being added to the group doesn't make it a new debut. That's like saying ice cream cake is rv debut instead of happiness. No one does that. Same logic. YG is also pushing this narrative I guess lol?

Also why r people blaming blinks ? Any proof that these r blinks behind the chart accounts?

I'm not sure if about the account behind that tweet but there are blink accounts that started updating about babymonster's charting on Spotify and youtube.

babymonster be catching stray because some blinks are using Sheesh's Spotify debut numbers to take a dig at BTS. Twitter at its finest.

Who cares fking cares jesus lmfao.

YG said this not blinks go cry at him.

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Also one thing that is a bit lol to me is their stans keep saying batter up isn't their debut... they literally won a rookie of the year award at an award show in like January... you can't win an award unless you've debuted.

YG was also calling Batter Up their debut especially in the lead up to it's release (if you go to their spotify artist description it talks about how batter up is the fastest DEBUT MV by a kpop group to hit 100M views). They're changing it now which is lol to me especially since they already won that rookie award

but YG in a recent article said that this is their debut because ahyeon is added to the group so it's confusing

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But why is this a fandom's fault?

Isn't YG the one claiming this is their debut?

I too thought that YG said that Batter Up was their debut...

I honestly don't know what's an official debut and what's a predebut/prerelease track anymore...

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if they have to blame someone is YG for making this whole thing complicated there was a recent article calling it baemon's debut because of Ahyeon's being reintroduced

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Imagine if Red Velvet stans said Happiness wasn't their debut until Yeri was added

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I mean a member being added to the group doesn't make it a new debut. That's like saying ice cream cake is rv debut instead of happiness. No one does that. Same logic. YG is also pushing this narrative I guess lol?

Also why r people blaming blinks ? Any proof that these r blinks behind the chart accounts?

comparing this with red velvet doesn't make sense because baemon were always gonna be 7 members the line up was finished but for unfortunate circumstances like Ahyeon's health she couldn't make it. Red velevet added yeri randomly in their newt comeback. Not to mention that batter up wasn't promoted at all even before the song was out YG said it wasn't gonna be promoted he should have been more clear and called it pre-release back then

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babymonster be catching stray because some blinks are using Sheesh's Spotify debut numbers to take a dig at BTS. Twitter at its finest.

now it makes sense why this thread was made lol

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Hi,

You all have it wrong.

BABYM0NSTER debuted last year.

This year, it's BABYM0NS7ER.

YG playing chess out here. My man's got this down to the algorithms.

2025: BABYM0NS73R

2026: BA13YMONST312

2027: BA3M0N

2028: 13A3YM0N57312

2029: PINKMONSTERS

2030: 2NEPINKMONSTERS

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-knysom

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Hi,

Quoting myself here ---- because, I wanted to add one more thing...

YG trying to make history while everyone else is just doing the same ole same ole.

NO GROUP HAS EVER WON ROOKIE OF THE YEAR TWICE.

Just think about the magnitude of this.

Jordan didn't win ROY twice

Lebron didn't

Shohei didn't

I'm just sayin'

-knysom

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YG trying to make history while everyone else is just doing the same ole same ole.

NO GROUP HAS EVER WON ROOKIE OF THE YEAR TWICE.

Now that would be a record

Well thats what YG said and it makes sense since its already a complete group. Go touch some grass and go to YG building and complain there.

I’ve seen some slimy things done by kpop fans to chase achievement tweets/records. This by far takes the cake.

If Baemon’s fandom wants to start off this way, go right ahead, but when their fandom starts getting more hate, this is def gonna be the reason why. It just comes off as delusional.

I saw this coming from a mile away. Because Batter Up didn’t make that much noise, YG was going to mediaplay their 2nd comeback as their “official debut”.

So like did Baby Monster never debut? Or did they debut twice??