The double standards between NewJeans and IVE/Le Sserafim

Newjeans in general are quite stable except MINJI only. So people need to stop asking for more lines for minji cause she really cant handle more. Hyein having most lines is very justified given how stable she is. Her ditto intro and ending still amaze me till this day. Hanni, haerin and Dani are okayish with Hanni being more stable while dancing.

ssera have Yunjin and Chaewon which are proven to be good vocalist. Eunchae is decent but she is stable. The other two (sorry kura and zuha) are really WEAK. Hence on average, they are pulled down a notch

Ive technically relies a lot on their two main vocalists (i presume) Liz and Yujin. Wonyoung, leeseo and Rei are stable, nothing outstanding. Gaeul is the weak list BUT she js not as weak as Minji, Kura and Zuha.

So should be IVE > LSRF = Newjeans

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I would actually put newjeans above both group

They are average but none of them is bad

Kazuha is bad

And nobody rational would call sakura a good or average vocalist she's a tragic vocalist

And for ive both leeseo and wonyoung are weak

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actually leeseo and wony are not weak at all. They havr decent range and stability BUT they're super nasal. If you compare on stability during performance, they are much more stable than Newjeans overall. So why single out them ?

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Tbh they all have bad vocals. The most vocally talented groups right now would be Aespa and Babymonster. Ive have Yujin and Liz so I would put them above New Jeans and Lesserafim, but all their encores are just mid at best.

Aespa really on different league to be honest. I revisited their encore stage, and i bet none of thr 3rd and 4th gen GGs are able to pull off the encore as good as the studio version

Maybe only mamamoo cause every group out there has a weak link (e.g. Gfriend has Sowon, RV has irene/yeri etc)

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Wym? They're young, it's not a concept. I don't follow knetz, but I know ifans call out BM for their mature concept feeling forced and unnatural.

Koreans like young cute, look at how they ignored twices vocals until they grew out of their concept. It’s over the minute they grow up in knetz eyes

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Maybe only mamamoo

none of these three groups have a good vocalist what is there to argue about

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none of these three groups have a good vocalist what is there to argue about

Hanni and Danielle are good vocalists. What are you people on? Are they the best of the best? No, but they're both very capable singers, and even IU was blown away by Hyein's voice and potential.

I'm about to unleash stan hell on this forum, if people keep coming for NJ's vocals.

I have heard nearly all of these groups in person. Some multiple times. Stop the cap.

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Hanni and Danielle are good vocalists. What are you people on? Are they the best of the best? No, but they're both very capable singers, and even IU was blown away by Hyein's voice and potential.

I'm about to unleash stan hell on this forum, if people keep coming for NJ's vocals.

I have heard nearly all of these groups in person. Some multiple times. Stop the cap.

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Aespa really on different league to be honest. I revisited their encore stage, and i bet none of thr 3rd and 4th gen GGs are able to pull off the encore as good as the studio version

Maybe only mamamoo cause every group out there has a weak link (e.g. Gfriend has Sowon, RV has irene/yeri etc)

NMIXX

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Considering I saw worse hatred toward BP/Twice during their rookie years

What hate did BP get during rookie years?

Please, there was only 1 group who was hated back then for their vocals and it was TWICE.

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What hate did BP get during rookie years?

Please, there was only 1 group who was hated back then for their vocals and it was TWICE.

I don’t know where you live. But BP had like one of the worst hate train until 2020.

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I don’t know where you live. But BP had like one of the worst hate train until 2020.

The hate train actually started in D4 era and they were no longer rookies then. BP were one of the most loved groups when they debuted lmao.

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I don’t know where you live. But BP had like one of the worst hate train until 2020.

LMAO

Blackpink was NEVER hated for bad encore. Only some anti were trying to drag them for encore but mostly about Jisoo's sounding forced but nothing more than that. Their songs are not hard to pull off + all 4 of them are quite stable. They mostly hated for "lazy dancing" or not giving their 100% during live performances (usually during concert or festival).

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SPEAK FACTS COME THROUGH

in JYP it goes

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