The double standards between NewJeans and IVE/Le Sserafim

Mmm. At risk to bring hate to my faves. i have to ask: Who thinks Ive or LSF is Red Velvet or something?

This isn't a fight worth picking.

The only people going after NJ vocals are fans of groups that were never even known for their vocals. It's the spiderman meme in full effect. Well besides the fact that NewJeans do have good vocals.

They know who they are, and they'd like for us to ignore the fact Mamamoo, Red Velvet and GFriend had the strongest vocal lines by light years.

But you don't see fans of those groups obsessing over vocals nearly as much as others. Almost as if the latter group simply has an agenda

But nothing good will come from this thread.

Of course people who see NJ as a threat will come for something like vocals or whatever. But at this point everyone knows that having a great singing technique is not the only thing that makes a musician successful. Like look at Taylor Swift. She's not the best vocalist but at the end of the day her songs touch millions of people.

I believe one of the reasons why NewJeans attracts so many listeners is because they know how to use their voices to their advantage. They know how to adapt according to the mood and song given to them. It's not necessary to show off and to belt out every 15 seconds, no one cares unless you're someone like Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston

And their vocals also complement each other to the point where people can't differentiate their voices. This of course frustrates most Kpop fans because they're not used to something like that. They will use this to criticise NJ as if that's a bad thing. What they don't realize is that this actually is one of the reasons people continue to love listening to their music. So it's a win for NJ. Who cares what a bunch of petty people have to say about NJ's vocals lol

Considering I saw worse hatred toward BP/Twice during their rookie years about their skills. NJ/IVE/LSR are pretty much barely criticized.

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Considering I saw worse hatred toward BP/Twice during their rookie years about their skills. NJ/IVE/LSR are pretty much barely criticized.

It's about the same. You weren't the only one there

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It's about the same. You weren't the only one there

Well I disagree few hatred comments isn’t something new and It happens to every popular groups.

I’m sure Aespa was much more dragged for their SP than any of them.

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I would actually put newjeans above both group

They are average but none of them is bad

Kazuha is bad

And nobody rational would call sakura a good or average vocalist she's a tragic vocalist

And for ive both leeseo and wonyoung are weak

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Are u saying this only bc of that lipsync video bc I wouldnt call this weak at all

Why would any one say any of these three groups sing well? Lol never heard it from anyone I know. And I sadly know a lot of SM Stan’s.

Imo NJ aren’t very good themselves but they are indeed better than LSFM and Ive in terms of vocal talent.

but everyone shits on ive and lsrfm for their vocals too?

there's no double standard bc ALL these groups are bad and have all received critiscm.

You should actually consider your fave's vocals being called average as a compliment because the other two groups you mentioned were dragged for their vocals. You just didn't witness the hate they got.

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Recently sm users were talking about how "unskilled" NewJeans in terms of vocals is. I think this is ridiculous.
Did y'all ever actually watch any of Le Sserafims encores? There is no way you can call them "better" than NewJeans just because they have two members that are clearly marketed as vocalists.

And IVE? Did y'all remember the hate before I AM was released? Everyone called them unskilled. Just bc they released a song to flex their skills, everyone is suddenly talking about them like they're Red Velvet or something.

If you don't like their singing, listen to vocal oriented groups such as Mamamoo, ReVe or my faves KISS OF LIFE

Tbh they all have bad vocals. The most vocally talented groups right now would be Aespa and Babymonster. Ive have Yujin and Liz so I would put them above New Jeans and Lesserafim, but all their encores are just mid at best.

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They are all terrible Day6 is the best

the pinnacle amongst GG!!!

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You should actually consider your fave's vocals being called average as a compliment because the other two groups you mentioned were dragged for their vocals. You just didn't witness the hate they got.

Knetz are to enamored by their youth concept to say anything too harsh