SM stans for the longest have played revisionist history with newer kpop stans and will have you believe army beef with SM, their acts and their stans was all started by army but it really was just confirmed that under LSM, SM (employees *includes producers* and artists) were indeed bitter and shady af about BTS taking their #1 throne away. And it showed with their acts making snide remarks about BTS unprovoked at either award shows or variety shows and carried on by their stans STILL till today. This situation has me feeling vindicated that we were right this whole time.
So we didn't imagine all the vitriol LSM, SME and it's artists felt about BTS?
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Since when did you master acting like an ARMY?
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Since when did you master acting like an ARMY?
I only care about the facts. And if others are spreading misinformation or disinformation I’ll call it out and provide the receipts if necessary
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well damn . . . . . . .
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You don't have to be a shooter to acknowlege that something did indeed happen. What's more BTS members were well aware of being the target of such hate. HYBE should stop supporting and collabing with these corrupt institutions but not even NOT making a profit from these "investments" will stop them from making stupid decisions.
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Man been following kpop since turbo, where's all this juicy idol beef at? I know fans do dumb shit but show me the idols doing it like what was claimed?
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probably they did I wouldn't be surprised
it's kind of like sm hating on yg artists and viceversa (probably) I think labels in general have a lot of rivalry
let's not forget the coachella controversy and the shady articles. I bet SM must be annoyed that blackpink became the biggest girl group and not a girl group from their company their last successful group was snsd
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Yes, spill!
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i would be more surprised if they didn't feel bitter, imagine you being the biggest company in the industry with multiple successful groups then out of nowhere a small broke company comes and 1 group from them becomes so big that the money they make is more than enough to surpass all your groups together.
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Man been following kpop since turbo, where's all this juicy idol beef at? I know fans do dumb shit but show me the idols doing it like what was claimed?
You're mad annoying with the whataboutism in EVERY BTS thread. Not only are you faking being an actual Korean but it's now confirmed from your stupid reply that you were and have never been a BTS fan.
There are many examples of SM idols/SM producers/LSM himself being completely vile af and either putting them in awkward positions/under more lines of attack from bitter SM stans or pretending BTS doesn't exist. I will not be bringing "proof" because you'll find a way to defend whoever it is dragging BTS unprovoked like you do all over this forum.
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probably they did I wouldn't be surprised
it's kind of like sm hating on yg artists and viceversa (probably) I think labels in general have a lot of rivalry
let's not forget the coachella controversy and the shady articles. I bet SM must be annoyed that blackpink became the biggest girl group and not a girl group from their company their last successful group was snsd
Armys have n_u_g_u and blinks have you... because damn
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Armys have n_u_g_u and blinks have you... because damn
i could say the same about you. i only sense bitterness in your attitude. spent too many years in kpop perhaps? take a break.
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There's a saying in China... But after that saying EXO fell into irrelevancy. So thanks Lay?
Iconic moment, so iconic some people are still foaming at the mouth whenever they remember it
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they were literally not even talking about bts in that vlive but afcorse armies like u never bothered to check
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Spill the tea, I'll be reading
don't have the whole tea since I wasn't a kpop stan back then but it's basically a project by kpop stans, a group from SM's fans mainly that tried to sabotage BTS's then upcoming comeback wings/blood sweat and tears era.
I am not sure what they did but I think they tried boycotted, streamed/voted for other groups/bts's "competitors", write hate comments, dislike mv. A lot even pretended to be armys and picked fights with other fandoms to make armys seem more toxic.
Also tried to do plagiarism accusations but yeah it failed really badly.
I think an army that went through it at the time would be able answer ur question better
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they were literally not even talking about bts in that vlive but afcorse armies like u never bothered to check
They definetly were or are SM stans already revisioning history that happened less than 2 weeks ago?
They were still referred to as "THAT GROUP" and with no honorifics when they happened to have the courage to even mention they who must not be named. I can never experience this because BTS are super humble to everyone and follow their own culture to a T despite how annoying it can be for fans (ex Bigbang) So I'll never know the feeling of BTS being disrespectful to their seniors, unfortunately, but it's the SM culture that fostered that attitude from your favs. It'll surely be tough for them now.
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I bet you can recite it by heart
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They definetly were or are SM stans already revisioning history that happened less than 2 weeks ago?
They were still referred to as "THAT GROUP" and with no honorifics when they happened to have the courage to even mention they who must not be named. I can never experience this because BTS are super humble to everyone and follow their own culture to a T despite how annoying it can be for fans (ex Bigbang) So I'll never know the feeling of BTS being disrespectful to their seniors, unfortunately, but it's the SM culture that fostered that attitude from your favs. It'll surely be tough for them now.
i will literally think anyone who thinks nct were being disrespectful in that convo as people without braincells so congratulations u have none
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I didn't expect you to find it disrespectful. That's why it's giving "like idol like fans"
Are we talking about the one that IU should have gotten? And you must be a new kpop stan because my name came from what exo losers and big 3 stans were calling BTS 24/7 all through out 2015-2016. It's a clever play on drag but now reclaimed and forgotten.
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Yes yes, keep talking
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affraid so im a pauper
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But the break wings project was started by the fandoms. What has SME and the artistes got to do with it though?
Unless there is evidence showing it was instigated by someone working for SM, I don’t see how they are involved
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