What would kpop be like if Produce series didn't exist?

Everything will be the same, like seriously what did the produce serie groups bring, they didn't impose anything new, weather with their music or styling or anything else.

Same as usual? I don't think it impacted the industry as much as people think given the temporary aspect of these groups.

horrible. lee chaeyeon not debuting? a tragedy for all of kpop.

I mean they did change the game table for rookie group sales & digitals. Look at what IOI, Wanna One and IZ*ONE have achieved. A non-big 3 rookie group achieving things only big 3 groups could achieve was clearly something else.

Some reduction in flop groups and low mid tiers when the produce groups eventually disband.

the produce series created such an influx of new groups that ended up not doing well saturating the market and also ruined some trainee's reputation with the rigging and evil editing so

kpop would still have been the same imo

chance or second chance for the new stars

Eunbi was member of group of kpop but disband in 2015 so izone is only success group and carrer

hard to say with butterfly effect and all

where would somi end up?

where would pristin be now?

would popular idols such as chaeyeon of ioi still be popular?

what would happen to the lesser talented idols like hyewon and minju? would they be actresses or models?

what would happen to all the fans of such groups - would they be added to others or would they not exist at all

I strongly disagree with people here saying nothing has changed

Do you all follow kpop at all?

How many sucessful groups debuted thanks to survival shows and projects alike?

Treasure, Enhyphen, NiziU all debuted from survival shows. Upcoming YG and BH girlgroups will also debut as well as atwo newJYP boygroups

Not to say groups like Ab6ix, Cravity, The Boyz and G Idle that essentially mostly their initial stats in the back of produce trainees

I even see Queendom and Kingdom as an indirect subproduct of survival shows

To say kpop was going to be the same without Produce is a big reach

People saying nothing would've changed are not looking at the whole picture. Produce gave trainees under shit companies a chance at the spotlight and gave underperforming groups another chance to showcase themselves.

Under Jellyfish or Fantagio's management, Sejeong/Mina/Yoojung/Doyeon never would've made a name for themselves and people wouldn't even have looked at or even heard of Gugudan or Weki Meki.

Groups like Nuest or idols like Jung Chaeyeon, Kim Wooseok, Han Seungwoo got another shot because of Produce.

So many other big stars also came out of Produce which gave them a headstart - Chungha, Kang Daniel, Park Ji Hoon, Ong Seungwoo, Jeon Soyeon and G-idle, etc

The same

2017 and 2018 would the years to watch. Wanna One had big impact.

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Everything will be the same, like seriously what did the produce serie groups bring, they didn't impose anything new, weather with their music or styling or anything else.

Thats basically every group, ever. Nothing brings anything to anything. But at least it gives idol from nugu companies a limelight, and thats exactly the purpose. So that they have a chance to do great in the future.

Probably Somi in Itzy