The soloist that no one is talking about yet she is now #2 on Melon Chart

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Digital thread has been talking, but yeah rest of akp forum is silent asf

Some of us don't check charts yo

Good for ha!!! Im so excited for a new kid on the block!

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Good for ha!!! Im so excited for a new kid on the block!

Younha is anything but new

shes like 34

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Y’all were busy talking when Kpop groups were eating the charts up this year. Heck even freaking zico got that treatment too😭 no argument

Can't be me

Cause I didn't know about Zico too

What's new about people ignoring acts who don't meet their definition of success?

There is Kyungseo, who has been regularly charting in top 10s, since 2020 - even against the likes of BTS. Do you see AKP talking about her?

Then GyeongseoYeji duo who have been doing fantastic - again ignored.

Younha is like that. AKpoppies and i-fans are fixated on top 1%, mostly groups and group-soloists, the rest 99% of the acts will mostly be ignored.

That is typical dynamic, not limited to Kpop, same with Hollywood and other scenes as well.

But good, that you are initiating such conversations.

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What's new about people ignoring acts who don't meet their definition of success?

There is Kyungseo, who has been regularly charting in top 10s, since 2020 - even against the likes of BTS. Do you see AKP talking about her?

Just bc shes charting "against bts" doesnt mean she's anywhere close to their level of success. Its literally not even about ignoring acts who "dont meet their definition of success" its just nobody knows who they are.

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Just bc shes charting "against bts" doesnt mean she's anywhere close to their level of success. Its literally not even about ignoring acts who "dont meet their definition of success" its just nobody knows who they are.

Koreans known who they are, that is why these acts are climbing in the charts.

The presumption that only AKP/i-fans matter is reflected in your use of "nobody" - very colonial attitude.

Only we are 'somebody', others are 'nobodies'

And thanks for confirming that you too are a success-stan with some arbitrary "level of success". I am sure back in 2014-2016, somebody like you would have been saying the same things about 'BTS'.

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Koreans known who they are, that is why these acts are climbing in the charts.

The presumption that only AKP/i-fans matter is reflected in your use of "nobody" - very colonial attitude.

Only we are 'somebody', others are 'nobodies'

And thanks for confirming that you too are a success-stan with some arbitrary "level of success". I am sure back in 2014-2016, somebody like you would have been saying the same things about 'BTS'.

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I never said I was a success stan, I was clearly saying that you shouldn't get on kpop stans as a whole for not knowing who a soloist was strictly for the reason that they were high on charts. International fans are a huge part of the kpop fandom so just because they're popular in Korea doesn't mean everyone has to know them. Yes I do like a good bit of popular groups but i wouldnt drop a group for the one fact that they were presumed as "flops". You can like certain artists, just don't get mad when someone else doesn't know who they are.

I don’t even view daily charts in my own country let alone korea. The more important thing to discuss than charting: “is it a good song in your opinion?”.

because people don't really care about non-group acts except IU.

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I never said I was a success stan, I was clearly saying that you shouldn't get on kpop stans as a whole for not knowing who a soloist was strictly for the reason that they were high on charts. International fans are a huge part of the kpop fandom so just because they're popular in Korea doesn't mean everyone has to know them. Yes I do like a good bit of popular groups but i wouldnt drop a group for the one fact that they were presumed as "flops". You can like certain artists, just don't get mad when someone else doesn't know who they are.

You don't need to say it explicitly, your reasoning is enough.

Korean charts are by korean consumption, not i-fans. These acts are doing very well on Korean charts.

Sure I am generalizing, but aren't you doing the same.

When did I say that everyone 'HAS' to know them, I am simply observing the trend and not just in K-pop that outsiders will primarily get to know and limit themselves only to the extremely popular of any culture, where as natives will know better and know more.

This is like tourists visiting a town will go only for the advertised tourist attractions, while locals will know the hidden gems.

But that is not a judgement on 'quality', but just exposure.

Who is getting mad? I have nothing personal with any of these acts?

Typically losers in debate, ascribe such emotions to the other person - pressed, mad etc., hope you are not doing that.

My response is that such difference in recognition is a very common dynamic in cultural matters between the natives and the outsiders.

As simple as that.

She's a veteran who used to be famous in Japan for singing popular anime songs(bleach opening), & prob ost for hit korean dramas. It's great that she's doing well.

Is her music considered K-Pop?

Is this one the ex YG girl?

I prefer Oort Cloud from the same album.

Y'all are dense. She's the same soloist who had that song with RM.

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Y’all were busy talking when Kpop groups were eating the charts up this year. Heck even freaking zico got that treatment too😭 no argument

i mean most of us here for kpop tho

why would we be interested in random korean artist that is #2 melon, but whoever it is congrats tho

This is AKP not Pann. Ofc no one will talk about her cause she's nugu internationally. Why does it even matter?

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What's new about people ignoring acts who don't meet their definition of success?

There is Kyungseo, who has been regularly charting in top 10s, since 2020 - even against the likes of BTS. Do you see AKP talking about her?

Then GyeongseoYeji duo who have been doing fantastic - again ignored.

Younha is like that. AKpoppies and i-fans are fixated on top 1%, mostly groups and group-soloists, the rest 99% of the acts will mostly be ignored.

That is typical dynamic, not limited to Kpop, same with Hollywood and other scenes as well.

But good, that you are initiating such conversations.

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This is not korean music from, this is KPOP forum

no one is obligated to know and talk about whoever act topping the melon chart

Lol. Younha isn't some nugu. Among armys, she is popular for her collab with Rm. That alone makes her more well known than most kpop groups . Also she already has a successful career in Japan and Korea.

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This is not korean music from, this is KPOP forum

no one is obligated to know and talk about whoever act topping the melon chart

So you mean this forum talks about all Kpop acts, irrespective of their levels of success.

Don't be farcical.

You are just using a technical cop out. And besides, is there even a definition of what and what is not kpop?

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So you mean this forum talks about all Kpop acts, irrespective of their levels of success.

Don't be farcical.

You are just using a technical cop out. And besides, is there even a definition of what and what is not kpop?

Who have said this forum talks about all Kpop acts? We are here just to talk about whoever we want that belongs to kpop. Whatever definition kpop has, she is never labeled as kpop or there isn't any basis to include her in kpop. You are just ridiculous for complaining for us not talking about some random artist we don't know and not heard at all.

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Who have said this forum talks about all Kpop acts? We are here just to talk about whoever we want that belongs to kpop. Whatever definition kpop has, she is never labeled as kpop or there isn't any basis to include her in kpop. You are just ridiculous for complaining for us not talking about some random artist we don't know and not heard at all.

I am not the OP who complained.

You or anyone can talk whatever they want.

I am simply making the observation that as outsiders, i-fans will talk only about specific cases based on criteria like success and promotions.

And that is true of other global cultural themes as well.

I have no personal investment in Younha or any act, that I am bothered by the shallowness of such dynamics.

It is just interesting to observe for me.

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I am not the OP who complained.

You or anyone can talk whatever they want.

I am simply making the observation that as outsiders, i-fans will talk only about specific cases based on criteria like success and promotions.

And that is true of other global cultural themes as well.

I have no personal investment in Younha or any act, that I am bothered by the shallowness of such dynamics.

It is just interesting to observe for me.

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I already know that and feel that as someone who follows lots of nugu groups

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I already know that and feel that as someone who follows lots of nugu groups

Good. nugupromoter on twitter is doing a very good job.

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Good. nugupromoter on twitter is doing a very good job.

i dont even need nugupromoter for that

Younha is really a talented singer so I am glad for her. This song is really good.

She's been around since a long time ago and charting too.

Younha was hot when Wonder Girls, Kara and SNSD were just being started. Then 14 years of silence.

(She did promote but few people paid attention. Kang Hyewon's agency used to be owned by Younha but was sold.)

So it is surprising that she is gaining ground now among those who did not know her

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Is her music considered K-Pop?

It's Korean, and it's pop music.

I also agree with Bbgc and Bpsosoro - Digital Thread has been tracking her for ages.

She rose from 800+ on Melon to #2 (and most likely will overtake Nxde by next week)

Good on her. She also had a great appearance on K-909, great interaction with BoA. She's been on the grind for literally months appearing at small and large festivals. When people talk about hard work - that's what Younha did, and it's paying off. Couldn't happen to a better person.

Went through Younha's entire Korean discography like 3 years ago (alongside IU's and Taeyeon's at the time) and have kept up with her releases since. She has a bunch of pop rock in there if anyone likes that sound

Best OST - the show was average but it has a bunch of great OSTs

Event Horizon is decent but I'm disappointed Stardust didn't get any love.

Her release Supersonic is the one though. Run is my favourite song from her alongside Stardust

Her album from late last year was good, I didn't know she had anything new out.

Because you lot didn't me

i dont care about korean charts since im not korean, so no idea who she is. But, i must say she have a pretty voice and the song is nice. Congrats to her for the charts.

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Her album from late last year was good, I didn't know she had anything new out.

Because you lot didn't me

It's a repackage of that album - I think the best songs on it are from the initial album personally

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Also most people are probably still more familiar with her Japanese discography considering how many anime OPs/EDs she did.

Yes, she did a lot of work in Japan, long before Twice, IZOne or the 4th Gen groups, and certainly much more than the person on the left of this post.

AKP is always silent outside of idol groups - there’s no discussion of trot soloists, kr&b and hip hop artists or artists like MeloMance or 10cm, who outchart a lot of popular idol groups, for as much as people emphasize the charts when it’s time to pick on a group’s charting.

It’s like when people get on threads to talk about how the Korean GP only likes bright pop songs and everyone should be doing it if they want to be successful in Korea when 8 of the top 10 songs in a given week are rap songs from Show Me the Money.