What is up with users in here not being able to comprehend what other people say?

what did you say?

I wasn't cancelled for saying that

I don't understand

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In AKP, it is 'I love ITZY' and someone will be like 'so you hate aespa?'

someone called me an sm anti

I still don't know why

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Let's be real, everyone who says stay neutral, all secretly have already chosen a side. They just don't want to admit it

what if i say im neutral cause i dont care about stanning bullies as long as they grow into responsible adults and leave their past behind

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I wouldn't say leave their past behind. More like own up to your past mistakes and show that you have truly grown and improved as a person

same shit

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you can mark out twitter and put akp

No, but this is so true! I've seen it happen so many times where someone said something very plainly and clearly on here and it got twisted beyond comprehension by someone else and I'm like: "How did you get THAT from what they said?" It baffles me.

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that's a good question, I've seen so many times people saying innocent until proven guilty, but they don't treat situations like that. it's always the victim is always right, and you must believe them or canceled. and if you say you aren't choosing sides, while trying to give an unbiased opinion you get attacked and accused of things. I have been on both sides of the spectrum in certain situations and the victim is not always right, as well as sometimes we are. I really don't feel a situation should be believed until CONCRETE evidence is given, aka solid proof, etc. I don't feel someone choosing not to take a side is wrong. You can be neutral and still give an opinion on something, but people are so quick to hound you if you aren't in agreement with them.

I don't get it. It makes me wonder if they would like the same treatment done to them if they were in a situation whether innocent or accused and would want people just shouting opinions at them with no evidence and feeling like they have no one to turn to because no one will believe them. People really should stop jumping the bandwagon and hate train.

I don't think it's humanly possible for me to agree more with all of this. I love how you put it and I agree with everything said here.

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Let's be real, everyone who says stay neutral, all secretly have already chosen a side. They just don't want to admit it

Usually, if I say I'm neutral, I actually mean it. Otherwise, I'll just say why I'm conflicted or which side I'm on and why.

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Also, it is easier to say stay neutral if both sides are known. For example, Mina vs AOA you can stay neutral because you know both side and you don't know the sides of the story.

But when it is a known person vs a totally anonymous account, how do people so easily believe stuff and buys that shit?

Imagine if a random anonymous account starts to say shit about you and call you a bully, and YOU KNOW IT IS FALSE, but nah people are saying gurl stay neutral that anonymous account might be telling the truth y'all need to stay neuuuuutralllllll

Easy for you guys to say and preach the stay neutral when you aren't the one being accused.

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This is actually a compelling perspective and one I had not considered before. Interesting.

Wasn't one of the rumors Garam throwing a flower pot at someone? I don't see how we can stay neutral when ridiculous stuff like that comes out. As a matter of fact, since Hybe and Soumu already said that Garam wasn't a bully, why are we still talking about the situation? Even if Garam did things, she's literally a teenager. Let's not pretend we weren't jerks to people sometimes as teenagers. But we grow and learn from those times, that's what maturing is.

Being neutral is really simple you just dont write essays to explain why the accused is or isnt guilty when you literally know nothing about whats going on

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Yea, plausibility is a huge thing for me.

I think the best thing to do if anything else like this comes out about an idol bullying someone is to just use logic based on what you know. Some kpop stans lack critical thinking skills (Not saying I'm perfect at critical thinking) and that's what causes a lot of them to be toxic. You don't have to be the smartest person in the world to use your brain.

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Garam does not need to prove her innocence. It is the accuser who is anonymous that needs to prove that Garam is guilty.

Exactly this. You described it better than I ever could.

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I'm too much of a judger to stay truly neutral, but I will stay silent if the situation seems serious and unsettled. I would not want to influence anyone else's opinion of a serious situation.

I have to respect you for saying this.

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Let's be real, everyone who says stay neutral, all secretly have already chosen a side. They just don't want to admit it

I think, for me, it's more, I would like Garam to be in the group, but if she isn't, it wouldn't terribly disappoint me because well, all I have gotten to see of her is her photos. So, I'm not terribly attached.

I couldn't stay neutral when it was Lia being accused, but in the case where she was literally just introduced, I don't really have a side. I just hope that if it is false, her whole career isn't ruined over some lies. In the end though, we may never get the truth like most of these bullying scandals.

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Back in my era when I was young we use word art to emphasize the shit out of everything

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I'm here for it

I don't care I will openly choose sides and if I am wrong I will learn from it. That's apart of being human idk why people are so embarrassed to admit that they could be wrong

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I'm too much of a judger to stay truly neutral,