Keeping the fanbase and competitive spirit constant, would a group sell more with 4 versions than 2 versions or would they sell more with 2 versions than 1 version?
Do more versions help in increasing album sales?
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One version per member because of akgae battles!
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would a group sell more with 4 versions than 2 versions or would they sell more with 2 versions than 1 version?
4:2 vs 2:1
The ratio is the same
I don't get what you are trying to say
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Obviously.
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pbly some, but there would be a point if diminishing returns
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increasing from 2 to 4 can increase album sales to about 1.5 times i think
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would a group sell more with 4 versions than 2 versions or would they sell more with 2 versions than 1 version
This is hard to say because net kpop sales has gone up consistency over the years.
There are many examples of lesser number of versions having sold more than many versions. But it’s hard to say if versions had anything to do with it or it was just because kpop grew year over year
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it depends on the content of the album I would think
does the multi version path offer special content in the album
and is the special content enticing enough to make the buyer purchase more
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pbly some, but there would be a point if diminishing returns
Here let icy educate everyone in this forum
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Yes and anyone telling you otherwise are lying to themselves. Let's say x group only has 300K dedicated fans buying albums. If they have only 1 version, 300K albums guaranteed. If 2 versions, 600K guaranteed. If they have 4 versions, 1.2M guaranteed. If they have 5 versions, 1.5M guaranteed etc.
I'll use BTS in this case since this applies to them. When 7 came out it had 4 versions and at a regular price. To date, it sold 4.7M albums before Dynamite era. Then we got BE which has 2 versions, not regular priced and spaced out in different years that sold 3.6M albums after Dynamite era. The decrease in sales based on version and album pricing is very apparent even after the explosive amount of fans Dynamite gave to BTS.
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depends on the number of photocards? :D
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Reminding me of college when i'm on holiday
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Yes and anyone telling you otherwise are lying to themselves. Let's say x group only has 300K dedicated fans buying albums. If they have only 1 version, 300K albums guaranteed. If 3 versions, 600K guaranteed. If they have 4 versions, 1.2M guaranteed. If they have 5 versions, 1.5M guaranteed etc.
I'll use BTS in this case since this applies to them. When 7 came out it had 4 versions and at a regular price. To date, it sold 4.7M albums before Dynamite era. Then we got BE which has 2 versions, not regular priced and spaced out in different years that sold 3.6M albums after Dynamite era. The decrease in sales based on version and album pricing is very apparent even after the explosive amount of fans Dynamite gave to BTS.
dedicated fans will for sure buy two versions
but only hardcore fans with money will buy four versions right away
some might buy two one month, two next month or something
but it don't work this way that you just double everything...
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Yes. Versions help esp when you have a dedicated fanbase. If there are individual versions, it will definitely help cos of solo fanbase competitions. However it also depends on other factors like price and fanmeetings. Some companies use fan meetings to boost album sales by having so many of them and fans will buy a lot of albums to get into them.
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depends on the number of photocards? :D
this is exactly what i was gna say, versions matter until probably only up to 3 version but there are a lot of pc collectors
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Yup,it's pretty obvious when you look at the stats.
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your hand writing is interesting
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Yes
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Yes
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It's business If putting out 10 versions ain't profitable, why would a company do that? Unless the company's a charitable institution.
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It's business If putting out 10 versions ain't profitable, why would a company do that? Unless the company's a charitable institution.
What does that have to do with anything I said? Of course companies will put out 100 versions if they're sure the fandom will buy them all
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obviously or companies wouldn't waste the extra cost... yes the bulk buyer fans will buy a million copies no matter if there's one version or 12, but for "regular" fans they might be tempted to buy 2,3,4 copies of an album if they like the other versions, or there are member versions and they want to collect their bias.
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Obviously, it does. By how much, though? That's a totally different question.
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not to the extent some fans seem to think they do. the "akgae fights" argument is a moot point because all the versions will be count as one and there is no way to find out which member's version sold more.
i believe fans who want to bulk buy albums (either because of photocards,, fansigns or for records) will bulk buy regardless of how many versions there are to buy.
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What does that have to do with anything I said? Of course companies will put out 100 versions if they're sure the fandom will buy them all
I'm agreeing and adding my thoughts 👍
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Yes and while I also agree with the diminishing returns answer, there are variables you have to take into account specific to each group that icyruios very beautiful handwritten chart does not take into account
Step 1) Are there incentives to buying more? What are they?
a. Photocards
b. Fan meetings
c. Achievements
d. Other incentives (free gifts with purchase etc)
Step 2) The number of hardcore fans, their nationalities, age, income bracket - all of these come into play.
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Of course, because some crazy fans would get every version.
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Hi Tic, you’re back
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first Singlish and now icygraphy???
what's next rapruios????
rapruious will appear when we go sing karaoke
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obviously and only fans of groups with 20 versions say they don't.
if companies thought they could get the same sales with 1 version they'd put out 1 version, everything else is extra expense. K-Pop companies aren't producing these things out of the goodness of their heart.
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yep Exodus had 20 versions and Sing for You had 18 lol. And both were outsold by the Growl repackage which had only 2 versions and came out 2 years earlier, and that was pretty much the same fanbase 2013-2015. What matters most is how big is the fandom and how motivated they are.
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I'm agreeing and adding my thoughts 👍
Oh sorry my bad, I misunderstood
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Can't say because I don't really care about numbers but I think maybe more version are better
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I believe it's common sense they do, people implying they don't are lying to themselves
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Oh sorry my bad, I misunderstood
no worries 😁
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