Majority of their fans are outside of korea who doesn't have access to melon. We also all know those inflated million numbers are part of bulk buying albums.
they do chart
in album sales chart
pretty sure album sales is important for sales, year end awards etc.
this new forum is so weird, do anyone know where I can see achievements of KPOP groups?
This ^ ^ And this doesn't even mention all the fansign bulk buyers. I've seen multiple stays or atinys getting 100+ albums each
It used to be like that, you could chart as long as your fandom stream your song. That's why many idol songs in the past charted during 'zombie hours'. But now the system changed (at least in melon, dunno about other platforms). Now one person (no matter how much they stream) will be counted as one listener. I-fans also can't help much for this that's why gp support is super important to push the song to the top. cmiiw
I get your point
The answer is GP doesn't care for them, maybe they might in the future but not know
Idek what Korean General Public wants from idols, maybe they should consider joining popular tv shows I guess
fandom size =/= no. fans who stream
Not every fan is a streamer. Some put more effort into that while some don't, plus streaming only gets you so far. Without the support of the GP and new unique listeners (since charts would sooner or later filter streams) - if your song doesn't click, then it wouldn't really chart that long either. Plus physicals can be easily inflated by the buying of multiple copies/versions. Streaming/Digitals too can be inflated by fandoms, but it's more heavily regulated than physicals.
Anyways, what's the point of selling physicals? Money. That's it - these idols aren't putting all this effort for nothing, they need to make an earning, and physicals are one way of doing so.Maybe it's not much, but it's certainly more than what digitals can give them.
(That said, a good mix of both digitals and physicals would be most ideal)
Probably you are right... maybe it's just me thinking kpop is bigger in korea than it actually is.
Survive
Some kpop groups have more international fans. hence more album sales and not many streams on Korean platforms. Also, kpop isn't that relevant among Korean GP.
Display Morefandom size =/= no. fans who stream
Not every fan is a streamer. Some put more effort into that while some don't, plus streaming only gets you so far. Without the support of the GP and new unique listeners (since charts would sooner or later filter streams) - if your song doesn't click, then it wouldn't really chart that long either. Plus physicals can be easily inflated by the buying of multiple copies/versions. Streaming/Digitals too can be inflated by fandoms, but it's more heavily regulated than physicals.
Anyways, what's the point of selling physicals? Money. That's it - these idols aren't putting all this effort for nothing, they need to make an earning, and physicals are one way of doing so.Maybe it's not much, but it's certainly more than what digitals can give them.
(That said, a good mix of both digitals and physicals would be most ideal)
Was going to say this. Y’all seem to forget that Korea has way too many streaming services for a country with a relatively small population. And the most popular charts that are easier for fans to top are Genie and Bugs. That’s why a lot of BGs and rookies last year fared better on these charts than on Melon where more than half of them were non-existent.
if yours and users who commented's fake concern ended, watch seventeen's performance
Seventeen is most streamed 2nd boygroup in Korea, stay shush if you are that unacknowledged.
isn't it better to atleast sell albums when u can't chart? Not having both is even worse.
Money talks
Does it matter when in the end it’s all about profit?
Btw like someone said they do chart. MX topped iTunes albums chart worldwide with their first full album, that's 7 months before their actual first win on a music show xoxo
They still make a lot of money. Charting takes years for boy groups.
Follow the new gen, it's harder for them due to recent chart reform.
There is 63282753286362 charts in Korea. Melon accounts for 35-40% of the market. For a group having 200k people streaming at the same time day they pretty much need half million fans in Korea which I doubt anyone but BTS has
200k fans will probably reflect on 80-90k listeners on Melon which is about the same numbers Seventeen and NCT are making
If we were in 2nd Gen NCT and Seventeen album sales would be less than half million, as in past Korean albums were rarely shipped outside Korea
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