[So I fucked around and...] remade the Hit Index.

interesting

sorry but how is Butter higher than next level?

Thanks, Massive. Nice work!

(I’m just waiting for the first person to come in and complain that Spring Day is fandom driven and not actually popular…! )

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Thanks, Massive. Nice work!

(I’m just waiting for the first person to come in and complain that Spring Day is fandom driven and not actually popular…! )

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what is this based off?

is it off melon charts? cause if so, how can you compare songs pre-melon reform to post-melon reform (mid-2020 onwards) when the new melon reform has made it harder to chart initially, but easier to maintain longevity and a higher ranking if your song is mildly popular?

Like is it a fair comparison between songs like say rough and lovesick girls?

No hate, I’m just curious how you moderate the difference in charting patterns?

I think the very top hits are pretty much indisputable though I think impact-wise, some other songs deserve to be up there, but obviously this seems to be based off digitals so I understand this ranking.

I applaud your approach of leaving soloists (read: the Senior Singer) out of the compliation.

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The Hit Index methodology is in this thread. Every week at #1 on Melon and Gaon gives a song a 15 point bonus.

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~ Hit Index ~ (Late 2015 Onwards)

EVERYONE SAY THANK YOU TO ILL-PRAY-FOR-YOU FOR THE OG POST!!


Disclaimer: This isn't about how you feel a song did, it's about analyzing the data we do have, from a variety of different angles, to an extent that really hasn't been done. It may surprise you, especially if you're coming in expecting your favs to do better than the data shows. Feeling is subjective, and this is trying to be objective.

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Update and V2 of the chart: November 18th, 2020.
Update and V3 of the chart: Nov 18, 2021

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MassiveKpopFan

Jan 13th 2021

Next Level had 1 week at #1 on Melon. Butter had 5 weeks at #1 on Gaon and 4 on Melon.

I think this methodology is good to help compare songs from different years since the charts have clearly changed. There is just something weird about seeing next level in the same category as power-up, kokobop, and permission to dance since it will probably end up on the top 10 year-end list and it is supposed to be one of the viral songs in Korea this year.

This list is kinda off. I know the method but butter so high on this list and nl so low yet nl is the one with bigger gaon points. With more weeks in top10 on every chart. A big flaw.

Sorry, the list is a bit no for me... NL should be higher, really higher. How is PTD so close to NL???

bts' longetivity is insane. coming for the top 3 idol hits of ALL TIME.

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PTD had decent longevity in the top 10, it did 14 weeks in Melon top 10.

And it got song of the month for July too, which is an automatic +50.

Hum... It's still a no bc PTD didn't have 50% of the impact NL is having. But as you did with your own metrics, ok.

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Becuase an Army made the chart duh.

The methodology was created by a blink. Atleast read all the replies before coming to your dumb conclusion. Anyways stay pressed.

Also massive has said it himself that he is open to suggestions in changes. Let's see if you can do anything worthwhile.

Actually how would this rank look if the points were only 10/20/30? Would it change a lot or not?

people coming at it without reading methodology based on gaon. lmao.

does this mean bts has 3 song of the month in 2021? (without an album. lol)

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What do you mean by 10/20/30?

Like you gave a song 50 points if they are song of the month, right? I'm basically saying pointing songs between 10 and the more impressive achievement 30.

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Hum... It's still a no bc PTD didn't have 50% of the impact NL is having. But as you did with your own metrics, ok.

Impact cannot be measured by numbers. Read the disclaimer.

Disclaimer: This isn't about how you feel a song did, it's about analyzing the data we do have, from a variety of different angles, to an extent that really hasn't been done. It may surprise you, especially if you're coming in expecting your favs to do better than the data shows. Feeling is subjective, and this is trying to be objective.

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Impact cannot be measured by numbers. Read the disclaimer.

Disclaimer: This isn't about how you feel a song did, it's about analyzing the data we do have, from a variety of different angles, to an extent that really hasn't been done. It may surprise you, especially if you're coming in expecting your favs to do better than the data shows. Feeling is subjective, and this is trying to be objective.

I read it after and i stand by the opinion that NL should be higher.

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I think you should read the method behind the ranking before suggesting this. They put a lot of work into it.

I read the op, but i didn't see how they put the points though? Can you link me the part where they show how they point each achievement?

Also not at you all downplaying 'Butter'. This is how brainwashing works. People have been made to think that 'Butter' wasn't a smash hit with insane peak and impressive longevity. Read this thread if you want to know how big 'Butter' was.

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1. Biggest MV Premiere on Youtube (3.9M concurrent viewers)
2. Biggest 24 Hour MV Debut on YT (108.2 M views)
3. Biggest Debut Streams on Spotify Global (11.042 M)
4. Largest Single Day Streams in Spotify History (20.9 M)
5. Debuts at #1 on the Global YouTube Music Videos & Songs Charts with 310 million…

beatrixavier

Jun 22nd 2021

what are these numbers based on?

and gurrrrlll i would not call Growl a minor hit. like ever

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Literally no one mentioned the other songs like Rollin, Lovesick Girls, & Dolphin being extremely high; everyone was laser focused on PTD and Butter. Makes you wonder.

I guess it's because nl and butter were released around same time and nl is just bigger outside of the peak? It's way more noticeable when butter is this high even tho nl is clearly ahead on gaon and on most other charts.

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Literally no one mentioned the other songs like Rollin, Lovesick Girls, & Dolphin being extremely high; everyone was laser focused on PTD and Butter. Makes you wonder.

Why would LSG being questioned when it's still in the top65 (i think) on Melons after 15 months? Rolling was massive and to me the biggest hit this year in S.K, Dolphin too was huge, competing with HYLT (another huge song) last year so no questioning. About Butter and PDT may be bc they are new releases and NL too, but one is super high, the other two not so much, but one of the two is a NH.

Buuuut if you are implying some (not all obviously) are being biased against BTS, well, this could be true too.

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I guess it's because nl and butter were released around same time and nl is just bigger outside of the peak? It's way more noticeable when butter is this high even tho nl is clearly ahead on gaon and on most other charts.

That is mainly because 'Butter' won head to head battle with 'Next Level'.

Take GAON Monthly award's 50 points and PAK 30 points out of 'Butter' and add it to NL. They both will be closer.