the reaction to the girls planet 999 interim rank says a lot about ifan entitlement

I mean they need sales and a whole group made of Korean girls won't bring that,look at fromis

Sakura bring the biggest sales for izone, this group won't even chart well so idk what they will do

it funny how so many ifans dont realize they are just as bad undermining and insulting k-girls and making some of them a subject to hate even on this very forum..

you can praise your trainee no matter of what nationality without having to put this kind of statements against these girls of other certain nationalities... the way subtle shading of k-trainees is normalized by ifans irks me.. and then they go on to call out kfans for it while they are doing the same thing just in a different manner trying to be all good saints

at the end of the day "less appealing" and "no charms" is your own subjective view, which can be different.. everyone has choices.. support your faves but dont bring down other girls..

the hate for ktrainees I have seen from the ifan side after the announcement is insane..

especially dayeon.. yes she got good editing but you know she has the talent to back that shit up and she is respected among the girls which is clearly visible.. maybe people genuinely like her.. its not rocket science.. just because you don't does not mean others dont as well..

these same people support old produce groups with members who also got extra good editing (without even having the skills to back that up) so its kinda hypocritic..

I don’t think it’s nice to attack the girls personally, however I do think it’s fair to call out the BS nationalism Koreans are pushing for rn

You can be an amazing talented, beautiful, charming girl with her own unique charms, but if you’re a C-girl or J-girl too you’ll fall under a K-girl who’s identity is equivalent to a rock or needed planet passes to advance

It’s really discouraging cuz it makes the foreign girls wonder why they should even bother when the one thing they could never change is the reason they got dismissed

Not to mention we signed up for a multinational GG, not a GG with 8 Koreans 1 Chinese & 0 Japanese. And inb4 some doofball says “wE sHOulD pICk bAseD oN tALenT, nOT NaTIonALIty” like stfu. If Koreans can pick girls solely on nationality, it’s all fair game for us now too. At least we want a mixed lineup, cuz no one said they wanted a foreigner OT9 like Koreans are for a Korean OT9

Koreans this, koreans that, the 1 girl in int votes is a Korean, so the kfans didn't made the almost all k lineup alone. Even if I could vote and want at least 3 non-k girls on the lineup, I wouldn't drop Yeseo for that, and I think most fans feels the same. We want a balanced lineup, but is hard to change our own votes.

You must be super excited with the current interim results. By the way, vote Bora so you can get your ideal 9K girl group K-GIRLS PLANET 999!!

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tbh, ifans are extremely insensitive to the political issues between kr and cn and kr and jpn. y'all are dismissive af about the feelings of the average korean consumer on these things. thats not to say they're right to discriminate against or ostracize regular people from the countries that havent done anything, but people rlly act like they dont have a right to be mad at the c girls who had ccp support or nk support on their social medias.

also it is factually incorrect that they signed up for a "multinational group" when it was told to them that the ratio of the final group was not set on d1. whoever gets voted in gets in. there were more foreign trainees in the top 9 more than once. ofc that would only increase animosity from the kside. what did you expect?

also "If Koreans can pick girls solely on nationality, it’s all fair game for us now too. At least we want a mixed lineup, cuz no one said they wanted a foreigner OT9 like Koreans are for a Korean OT9" ....this insinuates you care less about people who would actually make a cohesive group/people who "deserve" to debut and just want to vote c and j trainees to spite the kfandom which i already mentioned in the op. if either yaning or ruiqi makes the group, they're going to get a lot of hate. yall get mad at knets but still want to subject your girls to that shit? people should have just put that energy into securing xiaoting and the j girls.

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Don’t care, politics don’t justify shunning foreigners from becoming idols in Korea

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imagine stanning korean media and not giving a shit about how korean people feel. yikes

Imagine me caring

You’re never gonna convince me to support nationalism & being xenophobic towards foreign idols/trainees. If you want to be a Korea.boo & simp for that ideology than have fun, it’s a no for me tho dog

Hang it up, flatscreen

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this the same person who tried to say i didnt read or comprehend their post in another thread? because thats what you're serving rn.

I’m not, but you’re entitled to your delusional opinion I guess

You too Cosmicrhythm878

Your opinion is the opposite of mine. I don't find any of the K-girls interesting except for Yeseo and I find the current C and J girls more charismatic (except for Wenze and Xingqiao).

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you're really calling me delusional for saying that ifans are insensitive to korean politics, while simultaneously proving that point. grow tf up. the world in so much more than kpop girl groups.

Yes. You think you bringing up old ass wars justifies dismissing Chinese & Japanese teens/early 20s from living their dreams. I’m never going to concede to that nor is anyone else you’re aiming this thread at

“A shitty event happened decades ago, therefore you should be okay with another shitty thing happening in the modern era because it counters the original shitty thing”

Is basically what you’re trying to tell me

You grow up first Korea.boo, I said what the hell I said. You can stay mad, but I’m not supporting literal xenophobia

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you’re really calling me delusional for saying that ifans are insensitive to korean politics, while simultaneously proving that point. grow tf up. the world in so much more than kpop girl groups.

And Ooh please. Yeah cuz you care so much about Korean people & their politics

Let’s be real, you just want your Kfaves to make it in over everyone else, & you want to guilt trip others who are on the opposing side trying to get their C/J faves in. You ain’t slick even one bit

I don't see how political history matters here. Nobody's making One China or Rising Sun posts, these are just foreign idols trying to debut. There's no excuse for the ethnocentrism when it never really matters endgame

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you're honestly fucking disgusting. what i actually said is still right there

"tbh, ifans are extremely insensitive to the political issues between kr and cn and kr and jpn. y'all are dismissive af about the feelings of the average korean consumer on these things. thats not to say they're right to discriminate against or ostracize regular people from the countries that havent done anything, but people rlly act like they dont have a right to be mad at the c girls who had ccp support or nk support on their social medias."

where is the support for xenophobia? how is treating korean people like human beings who are allowed to have human emotions over things that STILL EFFECT THEIR COUNTRY TO THIS DAY being a korea/boo? if nk attacked sk china would be the FIRST country to side with nk in a war. jpn STILL falsifies their ww2 history to the point where japanese people are unaware of how bad jpn actually was. they still fight for resources with sk.

im sorry kpop doesn't take my priority over real life. i care about the mental health of these idols a lot which is specifically why i brought up the point about yaning and ruiqi. voting them into the group isn't going to stop knets from being disgusting about them? you're not some kind of activist for voting for c girls?

you're officially blocked

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> They're being xenophobic

> We’re against the xenophobia

> You’re trying to justify it by saying we’re being dismissive towards their feelings

What’s not clicking? You can try to put it in as pretty words as you please, you’re still defending xenophobia & trying to guilt trip others for not doing so. And you’re doing it not because you genuinely care about Korean people, but because you want you want as many of your Kfaves as possible to make the lineup

And you’re Ruiqi/Yaning “mental health” comment is a load of horse poop too. Again you’re just trying to find verbal justifications to hide your true intent for not wanting C-girls in the group. That’s like saying we should care about immigrants well being by letting ethnically homogeneous people kick them out of their countries

Like I said b4, give it up

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you're officially blocked

Omg my poor fragile feelings are hurt because some non-factor is blocking me, boohoo

Lmfao you think I give a crap? You blocking me because you can’t combat what I said, at least without further justifying xenophobia

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just a bit of a think piece.

i was in a girls planet discord server where there were many people who supported trainees like ruiqi and yaning simply bc mnet was doing the c girls dirty. ofc these trainees also had fans for other reasons, but it was a little crazy to see people talking about voting for certain trainees just to spite mnet/the korean fanbase. and now look. kfans ended up spiting everyone else lol. i heard that a post telling korean fandoms to only vote for koreans blew up on k forums and boy did it work

any way, to get to the main point, the fact that kpop sales thrive thanks to ifans has given ifans a bit of a power trip i feel. ifans feel like the own the gp999 group and deserve the final say in the group lineup so the group can be "popular" internationally. i have seen many people subtly shading the korean trainees on the show and calling them "less interesting" or "less marketable" which seems like an inherently biased statement when all 3 of the most popular j trainees, tho pretty and extremely talented in the own right, arent that much more interesting than girls like youngeun and dayeon. this reminds me of the pd48 discourse that the akb girls were so much more interesting than the korean girls and there's just something about that rhetoric that rlly rubs me the wrong way.

all i can hope is that gp999 group does ok for the sake of the girls who end up involved.

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Careful now, don’t want to be called a korea.boo by you know who on here for telling the truth LOL

As a person who didn't keep up with this "show" I'll say my opinion based on what I'm seeing.

Since the beginning everyone knew k votes would count more? If yes, congrats, since the beginning you should know how the votes would go, specially after seeing some k fans attitudes against foreign idols recently. It's obviously not right neither i like this mentality, but it's also not a surprise..

About op point, it's also correct. The amount of times i saw some shaming k girls and laughing at them saying they will flop and how they aren't a "global groups" etc etc is disappointing.. obviously the goal was all nationalities on the group with at least 2J/2C/5K girls or something like this, but since the beginning it was already wrong and Mnet didn't helped with the editing.

My point is: since the beginning Mnet gave more power to k votes so this right here should've made some aware of how things could've turned and how Mnet viewed the "global" thing.. now Mnet isn't also happy with the results as they saw how many support the girls got from i fans so good luck to everyone and congrats in advance for who debuts. I'll definitely check them out.

Asking kpop fans to do some research in order to educate themselves on viewpoints other than their own is like trying to get blood from a stone, it ain't gonna happen

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it funny how so many ifans dont realize they are just as bad undermining and insulting k-girls and making some of them a subject to hate even on this very forum..

you can praise your trainee no matter of what nationality without having to put this kind of statements against these girls of other certain nationalities... the way subtle shading of k-trainees is normalized by ifans irks me.. and then they go on to call out kfans for it while they are doing the same thing just in a different manner trying to be all good saints

at the end of the day "less appealing" and "no charms" is your own subjective view, which can be different.. everyone has choices.. support your faves but dont bring down other girls..

the hate for ktrainees I have seen from the ifan side after the announcement is insane..

especially dayeon.. yes she got good editing but you know she has the talent to back that shit up and she is respected among the girls which is clearly visible.. maybe people genuinely like her.. its not rocket science.. just because you don't does not mean others dont as well..

these same people support old produce groups with members who also got extra good editing (without even having the skills to back that up) so its kinda hypocritic..

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Glad I wasn’t the only one seeing the shade to the K group this ENTIRE show by kpoppies. Then you have certain people on here, I won’t even bother naming, strongly disagreeing and sort of gaslighting to have a reason to place you under certain labels for taking an opposing stance which they deem is you challenging them.