[GP999] Cnetz post rumored Top 18 who’ll make the finale; This user got the past ranks right b4

Xiaoting girly is pretty

Yeseo top7? It's just a dream. I don't think she can overtake Chaehyun and Hikaru

I voted Hikaru so I hope she pass and debut becasue she is 3rd for Japanese girl.

Bora though... She seems have some fans intl because her main vocal material so not sure about her being eliminated.

no bora, myah or cai bing??

Did Hikaru drop to 9?????

Bora and Myah

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Yeseo top7? It's just a dream. I don't think she can overtake Chaehyun and Hikaru

Chaehyun did not sing amazing and it was autotuned so her rank could drop, Hikaru idk why she'd drop but maybe fans got lazy? Yeseo stood out.

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i'm sad bora isn't here

but it was obvious she wasn't going to make it to the final

also i'm surprise to not see whenze here

Bora will be planet passed I guess

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Chaehyun did not sing amazing and it was autotuned so her rank could drop, Hikaru idk why she'd drop but maybe fans got lazy? Yeseo stood out.

For Hikaru maybe because people can only vote for 1 japanese now but they prefer Mashiro or Yurina. She is the least popular among top3 japanese girl so I wouldn't be surprise to see her outside of top 9.

I voted for her expecting it.

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Chaehyun did not sing amazing and it was autotuned so her rank could drop, Hikaru idk why she'd drop but maybe fans got lazy? Yeseo stood out.

Right now, everyone (or almost everyone) has a solid 1pick. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't drop Yeseo if her performance wasn't good in the creation mission, I already know her potential.

So Cai bing and Wen zeh are out

Not trying to be mean but this lineup has to be the worst I’ve seen in a survival show.

Huening’s sister, Hsinwei,Xingqiao but no Bora

Tells you what this is about

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Huening’s sister, Hsinwei,Xingqiao but no Bora

Tells you what this is about

I understand why you put Huening's sister, but what's wrong with Hsinwei and Xingqiao?

Suyeon???? If she really rose that high in the span of like a day I will eat my hat.

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I understand why you put Huening's sister, but what's wrong with Hsinwei and Xingqiao?

They are lacking in basic idol skills and need a lot more practice:

Baiyehh - often looks uncomfortable and awkward when performing. Her singing and dancing is decent for a trainee but not able to properly handle the stage yet

Hsinwei - she seems charming and “4D” but overall her skills are relatively subpar

Xingqiao - decent vocalist but very poor at dancing and lacks confidence when doing it. How can she be an idol being so poor at the main skill an idol must have

In comparison Bora is the best vocalist on the show right now, she just lacks the necessary visual level or a relative from the Big 4

SUYEON SAVED AND ON #13 WHEN SHE WAS K10 ON THE LAST ELIMINATION? Too good to be true, hope it's like that though

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They are lacking in basic idol skills and need a lot more practice:

Baiyehh - often looks uncomfortable and awkward when performing. Her singing and dancing is decent for a trainee but not able to properly handle the stage yet

Hsinwei - she seems charming and “4D” but overall her skills are relatively subpar

Xingqiao - decent vocalist but very poor at dancing and lacks confidence when doing it. How can she be an idol being so poor at the main skill an idol must have

In comparison Bora is the best vocalist on the show right now, she just lacks the necessary visual level or a relative from the Big 4

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I love Bora but Chaehyun is the best vocalist on this show and it is NOT close. Bora has more confidence and more musicality you can say, but Chaehyun is far stronger than her.

She is low with k votes but i votes have increased for her, people are mass voting for her. It is just that most people have chosen their fixed picks now.

A lot of eliminated trainee fans have voted for her and are streaming but she has the smallest stable fanbase, if she's not in danger now, they wouldn't vote for her as much.

There is a reason why the main vocalist is usually MNET put in besides Sejeong and Chowon. The vocal in the show is heavily edited besides PD101 which wasn't that bad, and it makes people have strange confidence in the vocals of the group.

Remember it's OKAY to not have a vocalist like Bora in the group but MNET clearly has a vocal song picked out which is why they are PANICKING to get her in. Chaehyun needs confidence.

I personally am more worried for the lead vocal in the group.

There is Mashiro and Ruiqi but Ruiqi may not make it if it is k vote. Yaning could do it but she won't debut. Xinqiao has absolutely no confidence even though she has potential and can support lightly which makes her better than trainees like Jiyoon.

If this is true, no taste

No kim bora - the best vocalist in the show right now?

No cai bing - she dropped so much, everyone fell onto mnet evil editing trap

Glad that yaning and ruiqi are still here. I hope their fans wont drop them

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I love Bora but Chaehyun is the best vocalist on this show and it is NOT close. Bora has more confidence and more musicality you can say, but Chaehyun is far stronger than her.

She is low with k votes but i votes have increased for her, people are mass voting for her. It is just that most people have chosen their fixed picks now.

A lot of eliminated trainee fans have voted for her and are streaming but she has the smallest stable fanbase, if she's not in danger now, they wouldn't vote for her as much.

There is a reason why the main vocalist is usually MNET put in besides Sejeong and Chowon. The vocal in the show is heavily edited besides PD101 which wasn't that bad, and it makes people have strange confidence in the vocals of the group.

Remember it's OKAY to not have a vocalist like Bora in the group but MNET clearly has a vocal song picked out which is why they are PANICKING to get her in. Chaehyun needs confidence.

I personally am more worried for the lead vocal in the group.

There is Mashiro and Ruiqi but Ruiqi may not make it if it is k vote. Yaning could do it but she won't debut. Xinqiao has absolutely no confidence even though she has potential and can support lightly which makes her better than trainees like Jiyoon.

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Stability is one BIG part of being a good vocalist. You could have good vocal but not stable.

Chaehyun has voice cracked in two important performances + during interim check. She lacked stamina and stability which is one of the most important aspect of being a main vocal. And the part in utopia is not even that high tbh.

Among current contestants left, NO ONE is even close to Bora in term of stability AND power. It is quite obvious from the few performances. YoungEun is the next best option and chaehyun is not even close. There's Shana and XingQiao in the mix too.

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Can we stop with the whole no main vocal stuff? Yujin is their main vocal:

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Eat that with a big spoon of salt

She is lead vocal material but not main. In CLC, she is not even on the top half best vocalist of the group - seunghee, sorn, Elkie, Seungyeon

the group lacks a main vocal who can belt like yeonjung or Yuri. It will be a concern if they going for harder songs unless they're going the cute route

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Stability is one BIG part of being a good vocalist. You could have good vocal but not stable.

Chaehyun has voice cracked in two important performances + during interim check. She lacked stamina and stability which is one of the most important aspect of being a main vocal. And the part in utopia is not even that high tbh.

Among current contestants left, NO ONE is even close to Bora in term of stability AND power. It is quite obvious from the few performances. YoungEun is the next best option and chaehyun is not even close. There's Shana and XingQiao in the mix too.

I'm talking technique wise!

Chaehyun and Bora are equally stable it is just that Chaehyun has a habit of lowering her larynx in the back which is a sign of nerves. (Note actually both Chaehyun and Bora are both not actually very stable, the most stable vocalist BY FAR was Hyerim and then Rayeon)

Bora has been very iffy on her A4s since the beginning, and her dancing tends to impede her syllables, she has a habit of ALSO cutting off her lines because she pushes her chest to get a fuller sound.

Chaehyun's voice also has the lighter quality, she actually can technically belt better than Bora but she lacks the power to PUSH that hard while Bora pushes too much and is often at risk of going off pitch. See here:

[shallow but autotune is hiding it and underdeveloped] which leads to [note her going off beat and pitch which is not covered up because the track has no reverb] but she has had some good moments [ still strained in comparison to the usual singer but had more fullness than usual]

[note here Bora is pushing improperly on her chest which makes her get a fuller sound but is making her lose chest control] I have followed Cherry Bullet and am voting for Bora so this is not hate in any way.

Shana is a very underdeveloped vocalist and poor Xingqiao has so much potential but also is very unconfident. Neither of them have the technical proficiency to belt.

Proficiency wise Chaehyun would make top 10 best 4th gen vocalists. Haeyoon in Cherry Bullet is a bit stronger than Bora actually. Note that the belting technique she uses is known as the way for regression of many idols so I would personally like to see her do it a bit less.

Youngeun...even MORE of a pusher and I've physically worried for her chest when she sings and no way can she do that while dancing. I like her tone the best. Ziyin doesn't have a head voice but she arguably is a better belter (both aren't great though)

In terms of power it would go [properly] Wang Yale > Ziyin> Bora(still improperly placed for Ziyin+Bora though)

Also note the note Chaehyun was trying to reach was one in the middle of 2 registers, so it is fairly common to crack there -- not that I'm saying it was right but I was not surprised by that at all.

The thing about belting like Bora does it is that with time and more notes (remember she shares with Haeyoon and Mirae once) you regress quite quickly unless you have superhuman strength. WJSN's Yeonjung, a stronger singer than Bora herself regressed after IOI because of her strain in belts. I think both Chaehyun and Bora should debut honestly.

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Correction, I listen to it again that a D5# sorry

haha generally the idea is that it should be supported in some way. Yujin was 5th(?) in CLC but all of CLC was at a similar vocal level -- all were weak vocalists.

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the group lacks a main vocal who can belt like yeonjung or Yuri. It will be a concern if they going for harder songs unless they're going the cute route

There are plenty of "vocal groups" that aren't technically proficient -- it doesn't stop them from going harder but regression is common with them. No one in GP999 was ever around that level.

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I know exactly how good CLC vocalists are.

And she was not a vocalist.

She was sub and sub rapper.

And yet, she can belt the shit out of that note.

There are very few idols who can say the same.

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take Cube's positions with a grain of salt vocal wise they are usually strange.

True but that is an indication of chest power and practice -- not consistency. Which is fine btw but that means it's very hard to consistently hit that especially while dancing because you are underdeveloped there. She is probably a lead vocal in gp999 though.

See Nayeon [member with the best lowest vocal range] singing the highest notes in ICSM as a famous example.

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I know what you mean, but you really think she didn't get the lessons?

I know Cube is crap, but still.

They do have trainers there.

Yujin couldn't have belted that out of the blue.

No matter how many lessons she got from Bora.

That was nice of Bora btw, to help her.

Is Bora a better vocalist than Yujin? Yes, more color and bigger range.

But is Yujin not a main vocal? I don't agree with that.

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ohh she got lessons for sure it's just that taking lessons generally just doesn't help you improve that much to the level of support unless you get them for years and spend a lot of time technically building yourself up.

Yujin's greatest problem is with her stamina [note the entire gp999 stage had reverb which made her vocals stronger] but I mean she has pitch and she can sing. Now do I agree with her being a main vocalist -- no, she has no agility, nor any sort of vocal development, or chest power [that last adlib was digitally extended] but it's okay -- we can agree to disagree! :D

~~shoot was the best gp999 song tbh~~