Knowledge

you made great points. Highly agree with last paragraph.

is something a lot of people dont have

Very needed thread.

Hope people read it all.

It wouldn't be such a problem if a whole bunch of clueless schmucks didn't think they were so morally superior and in position to give lectures to everybody else, telling others what they should do, what they should know, what they should say, as if they knew any better.

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Regardless of what is happening recently, I just find it funny that some people expects everyone to know things that are happening in their country like the whole world revolves around them.

And people expecting others to follow their values, when the upbringing, culture, society can be vastly different depending on where you live.

And it is always the same people who talk in the name of everyone while calling others the names. Like can you stfu, pls, at least when something doesnt have anything to do with you!???? I think that we all know who are those people who think that the whole world needs to think the same as them.... Leave us alone, pls!

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probably not since it involves ACTUAL DISCUSSION but then again I write things which I find interesting and hopefully other people will read it or not or disagree or agree - in fact I want people to disagree because I like to hear different opinions.

(maybe part 2 will be more interesting on the consequences of lack of knowledge - stay tuned!! :)

Waiting for part 2 then

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My country and culture too nugu to be affected oh wells

lol what is it? unless you want to keep it to yourself.

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Singapore, it will never get to my country like y'all probably can't even point it on the world map. At most is people calling SEA poor and that SEA is not important but I already made a whole ass thread about it

Yes, it's a small country for sure. I followed the Street Fighter competitive scene for years, and one of its most notorious player hails from Singapore. So at least in the world of Street Fighter, it has a bit of reputation. :)

I think that the once who are really ignorant and arrogant in those discussions are the once who think that the whole world must think the same way as them. Those people call you all kind of names just bc you state your opinion which is different. You give them arguments, they call you names and gang you up with their "knowledge" without any arguments, just name calling and ganging (BTW, it's not knowledge)....

You must understand that different countries and people from different backgrounds see thinks differently! Even the people from the same country can have different views bc of different background and knowledge.

I honestly really had enough of those people....

This thread looks like the decent people's club, ngl.

Also people should understand that people have totally different thinking. Even though we share the same fact or knowledge our view & perspective towards it are totally different.

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I guess you won't find any disagreements on this thread (since you've said, you would like to hear other opinions) maybe those, who disagree are not coming to the thread named Knowledge and are not reading the whole intro part :D
Btw i don't know if that's correct, but 46 guests are supposed to be viewing this thread right now? Maybe they will learn something :D

Nah something tells me this is far from over. Expect thesis-length replies, it's just probably too early still on some parts of the world.

Per the topic. It just usually boils down to who shouts the loudest or who can strong arm the most. Been like that in the old forum and I can even tell who would show up in those sort of threads itching for a fight.

I agree about your point. I think even in the era where information easily accessed through the internet, it doesn't mean everyone knows about history. History is learned as early as in school but it much more focused on their own nation. Even if they learn about world history as a whole, it doesn't mean everyone will know about it. As OP said, there also place where people can't get an education.

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Lol alright then, when the 'shouting debate' comes, i'm off, can't handle the shouting and 'the loudest has the power' :D

To be fair though, I haven't seen some of the usual suspects in a long time.

I usually just say my piece and vamoose. It's also one of the reasons why I stick to the sidelines and avoid controversial threads (or just the kpop threads in general). Most of the time, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on anyway.

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Even if you decide to participate in such discussion, you achieve nothing, the participants are too emotional invested and trying to prove their right without listening (reading in this case) to anyone else. Not worth of the stress, there is enough stress in everyday life, entertainment is supposed to entertain me :D

So true. I engaged a lot in those discussions lately and it's just debilitating. You try to make a good and reasoned argument, yet people either ignore it or misrepresent it. And in no time the conversation runs in circles. I should let go but because i'm stuck at home and bored, I go back at it all guns blazing. Lot of frustation ensues, especially when I start getting called names. Yesterday I was called a dipshit. Today I learned I was defending anti semitism. What a ride!

people have such a skewed sense of general knowledge, me included.

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Singapore, it will never get to my country like y'all probably can't even point it on the world map. At most is people calling SEA poor and that SEA is not important but I already made a whole ass thread about it

I read the book about Singapore! The plot is in Singapore. It is written by German writer and there isn't even English version (I googled... It is weird that it exists on my language and is translated to it, but not English). So the name will probably mean nth and idk is Singapore presented properly in it too since it's written by foreigner (she researched, talked with people and read bunch of books through, was in Singapore, but still...).... It would be something like "The time of wild orchids" on English (on German it's "Zeit der wilden Orchideen") and it's written by Nicole C. Vosseler. It is mostly fictional, romantic novel with some elements of history about Singapore in 1840 and on and the love story of rich Singaporean girl and Orang Laut boy. I was kinda fascinated by Orang Lauts, I never heard about them before the book.

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:D

Oh i have to add this. The more i learn, the more i know, more information i have, the more i realize i actually don't know anything.

I think this is the power of knowledge. To realize, how little we actually know. If we know that, we already know a lot.

"I know that i know nothing''

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To know the extent of your ignorance is already some valuable knowledge.

The opposite is the Dunning–Kruger effect ie. people so ignorant about a subject they don't even realize the extent of their ignorance. See, the flat earthers.

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and if you are feeling down about all the fighting and fanwars they literally have a song called Cheer Up

What does it say of me that my favorite TWICE song is 'Get Loud'?

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well it means you need to find better taste in music because the best Twice song is Knock Knock and if you don't Fancy my answer then you can just Cry for Me Likey TT

lol maybe Knock Knock is the best, but to be clear, I haven' heard anything of Twice prior Feel Special.

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see if you like it or not

Meh, not a fan. It's the kind of sound and imagery that made me unintersted at first. When I started listening to k-pop, I was more into girl crush/strong concepts and such. Their latest material has evolved into something more mature so I can enjoy it. But their older songs, I'm not sure. Same thing with GFriend for that matter.

Knowledge comes from life experience and age, wisdom. I’ve lived a lot in my 52 years and have experienced some hard time times that unless you have been there too cannot relate.

I’ve had many a quarrel with some on the old forum that tried to‘show me up’ but a lot of them were still youngsters at school or living at home that no idea what they’re talking about. Knowledge is a wonderous thing but also a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. I’m also blessed with incredible general knowledge that stems from a good education and an intelligent mind.

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Knowledge comes from life experience and age, wisdom. I’ve lived a lot in my 52 years and have experienced some hard time times that unless you have been there too cannot relate.

I’ve had many a quarrel with some on the old forum that tried to‘show me up’ but a lot of them were still youngsters at school or living at home that no idea what they’re talking about. Knowledge is a wonderous thing but also a dangerous thing in the wrong hands. I’m also blessed with incredible general knowledge that stems from a good education and an intelligent mind.

Yep, it's always rich when some clueless teenagers try to teach you some life lessons, right? I can relate.