Itzy new song already started falling down from charts?

I heard k-midzys are not satisfied with Mafia. They even wanted JYP to stop producing songs for Itzy or Twice. Maybe that’s why.

Anyway, let’s watch this

Nice try but ITZY and aespa are 4th gen QUEENS

give it a bit more time.

Maybe it will rise like ICSM after promo

Maybe JYP will finally realize that people don't care about his songs anymore.

At least the MV had a decent budget this time.

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It did not even enter top 30 and is already going down. doing worse than not shy. Korean really not liking this song.

Asap still going up

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After out charting aespa will stayc out chart itzy also?

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lol ITZY stilll 4th geen queens. They are achieved a lot of international succuess on itunes and apple music world wide. This is really good for their first Friday release

stop using StayC for ur threads

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I heard k-midzys are not satisfied with Mafia. They even wanted JYP to stop producing songs for Itzy or Twice. Maybe that’s why.

Anyway, let’s watch this

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Yeah, even their fans know that song sounds weird. Not saying it bad, but their previous release definitely better

Chill, isn't it only the first or second day after the release? Fyi ASAP also fell the first few days, it's only going up rapidly recently.

weekends charting goes stale + ITZY cant just carry themselves to the top like the top groups

Today is Saturday tho? Songs usually drop on weekends.

Wait until Monday to make this thread.

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Yeah, even their fans know that song sounds weird. Not saying it bad, but their previous release definitely better

Ngl it’s growing on me. But I prefer YouTube and not Spotify. I have a weakness for Itzy’s performances. Their songs not so much

itzy get concept of bg here so knetizens hate boy groups songs ...

Maybe because they are too busy streaming the rest of the album, don't worry ITZY are still queens.

I mean, jyp is dumb as hell for making itzy drop a song at such time. That's something only groups like bts/blackpink can afford doing. This man's desire to push into the west so bad is going to lead to bad consequences for his groups that aren't still ready for this

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It's kinda low on real-time so it was bound to fall around this time.

Plus it's Saturday/Sunday and no one really checks for new songs on the weekends. How it performs on Monday should be the real deal and it should rise with more promotion. Too early to say anything tbh.

Despite all of this, it's doing really well for a Friday 1PM KST release and this type of charting is something most 4th gen groups can only dream of.

ASAP was also never a smash out of the gate so if that taught us anything, it shows that we shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.

STAYC started out with a very low charting debut. ITZY’s debut was a chart topping hit

The dynamics for both groups are different. I don’t think ITZY’s current song will have a dramatic rise at this point

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Shut up, the song is doing well appart from half of the fandom not really liking it

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And ASAP debuted very low too so what's your point? My point is that you should never make conclusions so pre-maturely as I'm pretty sure no one expected ASAP to do this well.

And expecting ITZY to have a song to do as well as Dalla Dalla is sort of unrealistic as there were many factors that played into the song's success. Despite this, as I said, the charting is impressive for a Friday and 1PM KST release, and they're still doing MILES better than most 4th gen groups.

ASAP’s rise is coming from word of mouth. ITZY is already well known with the public but they aren’t taking interest to their new title. ITZY’s fandom is already streaming hard for them but either their fandom needs to grow or they need public to start liking the song

While ASAP might still continue to grow as more regular Koreans (who don’t follow kpop) start to know about it

hopefully they can rise, i really like thier sorry not sorry song, sould've gone with that one as title

well normally i hate itzy songs, but this time they lost those annoying shreeking tone and they sound more natural for me. I could listen to this often, Yeah, good for Itzy

don´t worry, international fans would love it, and would save them from going down.

and it is showing also the girls had been starving themselves for this comeback. Not that they didn´t look great back then, but the black outfits fits them perfect. Koreans loves their skinny girls, they will stop hating on them once their coordi noonas stop messing with their wardrove

Tbh. I believe this song is more for the international public more than domestic one (I think they are doing great in spotify). Now that concerts are a posibility in the near future (in USA and other countries) i believe is a nice move.

i find it hard to believe that Gidle was able to at least crack top10 based on initial hype but ITZY couldnt

And people here has been claiming that ITZY excelled GIDLE (pre scandal) in every single way

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i find it hard to believe that Gidle was able to at least crack top10 based on initial hype but ITZY couldnt

And people here has been claiming that ITZY excelled GIDLE (pre scandal) in every single way

Gidle did not release the song on a Friday. ITZY did and that's way it's hard for them to chart in Korea.

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i find it hard to believe that Gidle was able to at least crack top10 based on initial hype but ITZY couldnt

And people here has been claiming that ITZY excelled GIDLE (pre scandal) in every single way

firday noon release then weekend streams slow down alot, its doing well on international streaming services

Tragic.

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i find it hard to believe that Gidle was able to at least crack top10 based on initial hype but ITZY couldnt

And people here has been claiming that ITZY excelled GIDLE (pre scandal) in every single way

Pre scandal gidle was bigger than itzy in Korea. Gidle even has a strong Korean fanbase that itzy seems to lack.

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Pre scandal gidle was bigger than itzy in Korea. Gidle even has a strong Korean fanbase that itzy seems to lack.

yep, ive been saying since last September that gidle is bigger than itzy in Korea

i swear people on this forum can be so out of touch

btw Itzy's ep of Knowing Bros from yesterday recorded 2.4% rating, a 5 years low for the program.

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Pre scandal gidle was bigger than itzy in Korea. Gidle even has a strong Korean fanbase that itzy seems to lack.

But people has been claiming otherwise.

They said ITZY >>>>>> GIDLE in all way, quoting Dallax2 was the biggest 4th gen song hence ITZY >>

But since ICY, Not shy underperform, i think it is not true at all

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But people has been claiming otherwise.

They said ITZY >>>>>> GIDLE in all way, quoting Dallax2 was the biggest 4th gen song hence ITZY >>

But since ICY, Not shy underperform, i think it is not true at all

Till Wannabe itzy was bigger in SK as gidle songs never did well or had just decent performance. But ever since the release of dumbi dumbi gidle attracted alot of new fans. See with how how hwaa performed initially and even their bsides charted on every platform expect melon. They get so many likes on their bsides.

Dalla dalla was largely a result of the good reputation of jyp ggs that was build for years among the public.

ITZY kinda looking like the new miss A

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But people has been claiming otherwise.

They said ITZY >>>>>> GIDLE in all way, quoting Dallax2 was the biggest 4th gen song hence ITZY >>

But since ICY, Not shy underperform, i think it is not true at all

Gidle has a bigger Korean fanbase due to Queendom which helped their charting but in other metrics, ITZY is indeed bigger!

Itzy is much better known that idle for the general public. I doubt they have a smaller k fandom, I just think idle got a strong push because of queendom and got lucky

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Itzy is much better known that idle for the general public. I doubt they have a smaller k fandom, I just think idle got a strong push because of queendom and got lucky

Nah. Gidle released oh my god after Queendom. They had the best oppurtinity glow and they wasted. Omg is their best in international but their worst in Korea. So how this is a push up from quuendom? Also if it is a push up, seems like itsa regular push up because even their i'm the trend ( a fan song) charted at top50. Dumdi dumdi and Hwaa broke many records. I burn albums break allll the 4.gen records tho. I didnt even mentioned their solo projects. So gidle is bigger in Korea

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Nah. Gidle released oh my god after Queendom. They had the best oppurtinity glow and they wasted. Omg is their best in international but their worst in Korea. So how this is a push up from quuendom? Also if it is a push up, seems like itsa regular push up because even their i'm the trend ( a fan song) charted at top50. Dumdi dumdi and Hwaa broke many records. I burn albums break allll the 4.gen records tho. I didnt even mentioned their solo projects. So gidle is bigger in Korea

Nah you can't just deny the big push queendom gave to idle. Without it they would have been successful but nowhere near successful as now. Once the girls gain exposure and fans after the queendom hype it only make sense they'll keep growing more later on and expanding their fandom. Again, I'm speaking about general public. Itzy had two viral hits 2xdalla and wannabe, overall their songs grab easily the gp. I'm not sure how much bigger or smaller their fandom is but if we talk about gp then itzy's got this one

I've been saying Itzy are more or less a one hit wonder. They lucked out with Dalla Dalla and midzys refuse to see that. MITM is an awful song so I'm not surprised that it's not doing well. And promos won't help them much. Neither fans nor the GP like that song. Also, JYP needs to stop meddling with his groups. The outcome is usually bad.

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firday noon release then weekend streams slow down alot, its doing well on international streaming services

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I do recognise this. But if ITZY has a big enough fandom like many claimed, the song has high chance to make it to the top 20 at least but unfortunately the charting just show otherwise

No doubt they are way better internationally as the have better appeal to international market. ITZY will still be better than GIDLE (post scandal)

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I've been saying Itzy are more or less a one hit wonder. They lucked out with Dalla Dalla and midzys refuse to see that. MITM is an awful song so I'm not surprised that it's not doing well. And promos won't help them much. Neither fans nor the GP like that song. Also, JYP needs to stop meddling with his groups. The outcome is usually bad.

WANNABE is more popular then Dallax2 everywhere outside of Korea ,tf ru on