is it safe to say 3rd gen is the best generation of kpop?

More like 3rd gen is the last actually good and fun generation. Since the 4th it's bland with a couple of exemptions.

I don't see the REAL FUN of Kpop anymore, and I'm not talking about the music.

For me, yes. The music is great. The idols are generally likeable, memorable and talented at the same time.

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More like 3rd gen is the last actually good and fun generation. Since the 4th it's bland with a couple of exemptions.

I don't see the REAL FUN of Kpop anymore, and I'm not talking about the music.

This!

The best imo is 2nd gen with 3rd gen having great moments and groups.

Nostalgia tells me yes, 3rd generation was the best, but 4th generation does have several amazing groups and moments that I would miss if we somehow magically went back to 3rd generation.

The third generation is my favorite, but there is a huge gap between the popularity of the top and smaller groups, due to their growth in the West.

The second generation is the most balanced overall.

The fourth generation has strong girl groups, but lags behind due to the lack of domestic popularity of the boy groups.

The fifth generation has not brought anything new to the table yet.

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This!

The best imo is 2nd gen with 3rd gen having great moments and groups.

2nd gen is basically the last gen where male and female Idols can have a chat without being afraid of fans.

Imagine a female Idol kissing a male Idol on his cheek. Kinda miss this fangirl IU. 😂

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2nd gen is basically the last gen where male and female Idols can have a chat without being afraid of fans.

Imagine a female Idol kissing a male Idol on his cheek. Kinda miss this fangirl IU. 😂

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The way she way reeeeeally his fangirl. It was cute! Both extremely shy kkkk

Because it has Day6 so yes it's the best

2nd Gen was less polished and more explorative with genres, which I love ❤️

2nd gen all the way

3rd gen gave me my favorite group of all time, but 2nd Gen was CLEARLY the most chaotic and colorful timeline in idol lore.

I got into kpop in 2019 so that is the best generation

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The way she way reeeeeally his fangirl. It was cute! Both extremely shy kkkk

Everyone was in love with Taeyang back in the day. Even Lee Hyori had a nice moment with TOP.😂

Everyone knows why 2nd Grne was the best 😏😏😏😉😉😉

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Everyone was in love with Taeyang back in the day. Even Lee Hyori had a nice moment with TOP.😂

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Oh how I miss genuine interaction between idols, not just some TikTok moments

I'm basically still stuck in 2nd to early 3rd gen kpop. If you see my answers all my answers are mostly about 2nd gen kpop groups and songs because that's the only thing I know. I don't find new kpop songs that good tbh

2nd gen had groups performing with juice cartons on their heads, what can 3rd offer?

IMO as a generation it's second. Huge variety of concepts, minimal fan wars coz charting wasn't so important, tonnes of variety show content and cross group interactions.

It was the most fun period of Kpop IMO, before all the competitiveness and mean-spiritedness of 3rd gen and 4th gen became the standard

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More like 3rd gen is the last actually good and fun generation. Since the 4th it's bland with a couple of exemptions.

I don't see the REAL FUN of Kpop anymore, and I'm not talking about the music.

everything went downhill during corona

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More like 3rd gen is the last actually good and fun generation. Since the 4th it's bland with a couple of exemptions.

I don't see the REAL FUN of Kpop anymore, and I'm not talking about the music.

It went downhill when GWSN, WJSN and Weki Meki stopped making music

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what do you think? I not only personally feel this way, but I think it is objectively the superior k-pop generation.

Kpop went downhill when GWSN, WJSN and Weki Meki stopped making music

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I got into kpop in 2019 so that is the best generation

kpop went downhill when GWSN, WJSN and Weki Meki stopped making music

We all know it's 2nd gen

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Who???????

I get not knowing GWSN, but Weki Meki and especially WJSN was very popular, they even outcharted Blackpink in their peak. Their most popular member EXY wrote multiple great songs. She wrote IVE's Heya as well.

Bona is also a very popular member, especially as a Kdrama actress.

Are you sure you're a multistan? 🤣

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but Weki Meki and especially WJSN was very popular, they even outcharted Blackpink in their peak

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I was kinda kidding, Ive heard their names (weki meki is hard name to forget) but no they are not groups I know anything about or have listened to.

To be fair, I'm not a massive WJSN fan either, I only follow EXY and Bona, she's a really good actress, and EXY is a great rapper too.

I don't know anything about Weki Meki other than their name.🤣

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You didn't know WJSN outcharted BP in 2019? Also, they won Queendom Part 2 as well.

Okay, technically they only charted better than BP much later than BP's KTL. 😂 But they were still very popular.

To be fair, I don't think Starship's gonna do anything with them now that they have IVE and KiiiKiii.

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IMO as a generation it's second. Huge variety of concepts, minimal fan wars coz charting wasn't so important, tonnes of variety show content and cross group interactions.

It was the most fun period of Kpop IMO, before all the competitiveness and mean-spiritedness of 3rd gen and 4th gen became the standard

2nd Gen was perfect except for a certain soloist who had inserted herself there and caused about 00% of all the problems in that generation.

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kpop went downhill when GWSN, WJSN and Weki Meki stopped making music

sounds more of a personal opinion my friend...

but one you are certainly entitled to have

fx,2ne1 > bp and rv bigbang,infinite > bts and exo overall 2. gen for me.

3rd first

4th next

Last is 2nd gen

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IMO as a generation it's second. Huge variety of concepts, minimal fan wars coz charting wasn't so important, tonnes of variety show content and cross group interactions.

It was the most fun period of Kpop IMO, before all the competitiveness and mean-spiritedness of 3rd gen and 4th gen became the standard

You just don’t remember the fan wars because time has made you forget. Charting and fan wars were always been a huge part of kpop fandom life. People went to war for their second gen groups with some crazy stories. If. Anything the fan wars are more tame now with just online fighting.

The 2nd generation got me into Kpop so. Also, the 4th is the worst. (Somehow, I don't see it getting better either.)

To me, Kpop stopped progressing after the 3rd generation.

2nd generation had by far the best and most entertaining music and songs.

You can always argue about skills and quality, but that is an other queastion.

By number alone 2nd generation is better:

- higher ratio of groups that could chart
- higher ratio of groups could won music shows
- more groups survived the "7 years curse"
- for the girl groups, the 80% percentile of 2nd generation sold more physical albums than 80% percentile of 3rd generation.

The only things better in 3rd generation are the very top groups did better. For the average/mid groups (which are most of groups), especially girl groups it was actually worse.

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2nd generation had by far the best and most entertaining music and songs.

You can always argue about skills and quality, but that is an other queastion.

2nd generation has objective most skilled vocalists of all generations, and it's not even close. After 20 years, Kyuhyun and Lina are still the best male and female vocalist.