Sad either way but very sad she’s agreed 
I don't think the OP is wrong, but I don't think it's something you write on an artist's page. I think it's disrespectful to have a comment like that on their own page. I feel an artist seeing a comment like this is not good for their mental health, and we've seen how idols say they read comments
I hope she leaves the black label because her career should've been so much more. She should be an active artist and not an influencer. I sometimes wonder if she would have been better off staying at jyp and being a member of Itzy. She wouldn't have as much freedom today, but she would have an active music career.
i think she gets booked for lots of events and has some brand deals. its not so bad
or maybe it is, i don't know
i think she gets booked for lots of events and has some brand deals. its not so bad
or maybe it is, i don't know
I’m unfamiliar with Somi’s situation too so not sure how active she is 
I don't think the OP is wrong, but I don't think it's something you write on an artist's page. I think it's disrespectful to have a comment like that on their own page. I feel an artist seeing a comment like this is not good for their mental health, and we've seen how idols say they read comments
I hope she leaves the black label because her career should've been so much more. She should be an active artist and not an influencer. I sometimes wonder if she would have been better off staying at jyp and being a member of Itzy. She wouldn't have as much freedom today, but she would have an active music career.
I agree! I think it’s awkward and almost insensitive to post this on her page! I wasn’t sure if it was real 
Sad she replied too!
We will never truly know what happened with her and JYP though maybe it wasn’t her decision?
i think she gets booked for lots of events and has some brand deals. its not so bad
or maybe it is, i don't know
She's more of an influencer. She is usually at events, but unsure if she's making good money from it. She does have some brand deals and sometimes gets to be featured on magazines. It's hard to determine how lucrative is to be an influencer.
When speaking on music she's terribly mismanaged
XOXO - October 2021
Game plan EP - August 2023
Ice Cream (single) - July 2024
There's no reason her releases should be that far apart and she sould be active. TBL seems to have wasted her career because she should be active and shouldn't have this big of a gap in releases.
she needs to leave TBL ASAP
interesting
She has a JTBC travel variety show coming out soon as a regular member, so she could be coming back soon in-line with the show airing. Also been teasing a comeback with workout videos/IG stories which she has mentioned before as little "hints" to fans for her getting back into shape before a comeback. Although to be fair, she has been "teasing" that comeback for a while now...
TBL issues apart,
Somi, Chungha, Sejeong and then Yena, Yuri, Eunbi - all proofs that Solo careers from popular groups will not sustain, further in the past the group is, they have to leverage the group fandom while always pretending that the group is still active with occasional crumbs.
That is what BP, BTS and TWICE will do.
Only person who has managed to overcome that is Taeyeon.
Somi is better off reforming IOI even with the subset of the original members, as long that includes Chungha and Sejeong.
Otherwise TBL's business model perfected with Blackpink is, be model/endorser/influencer who occasionally releases music, just to keep up pretense as an idol.
The BP solos in just recent years outnumber the entire discography of Blackpink the group, is evidence enough.
Somi needs to do both things, get out of TBL, reform IOI.
I think she is better fitted as an influencer. She is not a good singer or performer.
I think Somi just chose the wrong agency tbh.
She also probably would just NOW be going solo with JYPE much like Yeji. She would have an active music career, but her brand would be tied mostly to her group.
Honestly, HYBE or SM are the best bets when it comes to having individual promotions. None of the GG members from HYBE groups have gone solo yet, so I might be speaking a little too early in that regard, but at least they release music and don't seem to turn down all solo promotions like JYPE was doing for Twice and ITZY until recently.
And SM might wait to let their GG members go solo, but at least they promote them heavily individually in other ways.
I don't think the OP is wrong, but I don't think it's something you write on an artist's page. I think it's disrespectful to have a comment like that on their own page. I feel an artist seeing a comment like this is not good for their mental health, and we've seen how idols say they read comments
I hope she leaves the black label because her career should've been so much more. She should be an active artist and not an influencer. I sometimes wonder if she would have been better off staying at jyp and being a member of Itzy. She wouldn't have as much freedom today, but she would have an active music career.
Being in ITZY would have meant her body hurting immensely from all the dancing. We saw how ITZY basically said they are always in pain and health in my opinion is worth much more. Also, there is no gurantee that she wouldn't suddwnly have gotten a lot of haters or that she would do well solo after/during the time she was in a group
Being in ITZY would have meant her body hurting immensely from all the dancing. We saw how ITZY basically said they are always in pain and health in my opinion is worth much more. Also, there is no gurantee that she wouldn't suddwnly have gotten a lot of haters or that she would do well solo after/during the time she was in a group
It's one of this things where we just don't know. Maybe Itzy concept changes a bit with Somi in the group. I think the important thing is she should have went to a better company.TBL fumbled her career, but I think most soloist have had some ups and downs. It's most likely what bbgc said where it's hard to maintain career as a soloist.
The problem with being a group there's less individuality and freedom. It took an Itzy member 6 years to get a solo and unsure if Somi wanted to wait that long. I just wish she was more active because the gap between releases ruined her career trajectory
"sustainable" is not really the thing, right. "successful" is what fans would want for any artist.
And in the current industry trends, Solos without a group fandom are not being successful.
At best Taeyeon.
OR they need huge acting boost.
Even IU - well she is an exception in S.K, but it is Hotel Del Luna which massively increased her reach in the West. Same with Sejeong - Business proposal, made a huge difference to her.
I don't think Squid Games will help Yuri much, it is not the best genre to highlight non-leads, too ensemble, but if it happens, then good for her.
In any case, I don't see non-group soloists thriving much, they will have an occasional high and be 'sustainable'.
It will be only SolUnits, subunit of 1 member leveraging active group fandoms, passing as soloists.
Display More"sustainable" is not really the thing, right. "successful" is what fans would want for any artist.
And in the current industry trends, Solos without a group fandom are not being successful.
At best Taeyeon.
OR they need huge acting boost.
Even IU - well she is an exception in S.K, but it is Hotel Del Luna which massively increased her reach in the West. Same with Sejeong - Business proposal, made a huge difference to her.
I don't think Squid Games will help Yuri much, it is not the best genre to highlight non-leads, too ensemble, but if it happens, then good for her.
In any case, I don't see non-group soloists thriving much, they will have an occasional high and be 'sustainable'.
It will be only SolUnits, subunit of 1 member leveraging active group fandoms, passing as soloists.
Yena has bought a house, her parents a house and a car with her earnings. Comparatively her labelmates in Everglow who she trained with cannot earn a single dime between the six of them. I think she's fine successwise.
I am glad she is fine. But the success of a musical act is not by what they personally bought, or in comparison with the incomes of others, those are all peripheral. After people can very well do other professions and achieve such things.
What matters, is the how did their songs do on the charts? In case of K-pop, particularly the Digital charts - YT/Melon etc.,
Or internationally Billboard.
I am glad she is fine. But the success of a musical act is not by what they personally bought, or in comparison with the incomes of others, those are all peripheral. After people can very well do other professions and achieve such things.
What matters, is the how did their songs do on the charts? In case of K-pop, particularly the Digital charts - YT/Melon etc.,
Or internationally Billboard.
won't be surprised if everglow members' families have cash stacked up the wazoo anyways
I am glad she is fine. But the success of a musical act is not by what they personally bought, or in comparison with the incomes of others, those are all peripheral. After people can very well do other professions and achieve such things.
What matters, is the how did their songs do on the charts? In case of K-pop, particularly the Digital charts - YT/Melon etc.,
Or internationally Billboard.
Aren't chart rankings comparisons to how they do compared to other songs as well? Why do fans need to know musicians destroyed other musicians digitally but nothing else?
If you like a song your artist put out, great, if you don't like it I'd argue that knowing they did well financially is a better consolation then knowing they did better digitally.
Aren't chart rankings comparisons to how they do compared to other songs as well? Why do fans need to know musicians destroyed other musicians digitally but nothing else?
If you like a song your artist put out, great, if you don't like it I'd argue that knowing they did well financially is a better consolation then knowing they did better digitally.
Stupid fans do use charts to make statements like "Ended XYZ". But the actually intent is to measure public appreciation of the art.
You should focus on the primary intent and not fan idiocy.
Actually you need to know nothing - about charts or their personal finances, all you need to care about is whether you like the 'song', enjoy the music.
But then if you are so, they why would you be participating in a kpop forums.
Personal finances are taking it too far. Then Choi Siwan can probably buy all kpop companies for fun from his family wealth.
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Girl...
TBL issues apart,
Somi, Chungha, Sejeong and then Yena, Yuri, Eunbi - all proofs that Solo careers from popular groups will not sustain, further in the past the group is, they have to leverage the group fandom while always pretending that the group is still active with occasional crumbs.
That is what BP, BTS and TWICE will do.
Sejeong, and especially Chungha is not really a good example, because Sejeong is one of the most popular actresses in Korea, and her music career is great as well. I mean, she released the best album in 2023. She doesn't release songs for the sake of it, she's a real artist.
As for Chungha, I don't think I need to say much. One of the most popular soloists in Korea, and MORE VISION is doing a fine job with her.
Just because someone don't top the charts all the time, doesn't mean they're finished.
Sejeong, and especially Chungha is not really a good example, because Sejeong is one of the most popular actresses in Korea, and her music career is great as well. I mean, she released the best album in 2023. She doesn't release songs for the sake of it, she's a real artist.
As for Chungha, I don't think I need to say much. One of the most popular soloists in Korea, and MORE VISION is doing a fine job with her.
Just because someone don't top the charts all the time, doesn't mean they're finished.
Again personal appreciation for the song, is subjective.
I very much enjoyed and still regularly listen to songs from "Door"
But objectively, doing well in music means charting well, that Sejeong hasn't.
That they are doing well otherwise, in other ways is a different topic.
Soloists need either group fandom or acting success, to reach greater market.
That's the reality.
Else their reach will be limited, and that's reflected by the charts.
Nothing about the quality of their music.
Display MoreAgain personal appreciation for the song, is subjective.
I very much enjoyed and still regularly listen to songs from "Door"
But objectively, doing well in music means charting well, that Sejeong hasn't.
That they are doing well otherwise, in other ways is a different topic.
Soloists need either group fandom or acting success, to reach greater market.
That's the reality.
Else their reach will be limited, and that's reflected by the charts.
Nothing about the quality of their music.
This isn't just personal appreciation. I'm just saying how it is, 99% of artists, not just in Kpop can't chart. Both Chungha and Sejeong are loved and very popular. You know damn well that not every song can chart, but that doesn't mean people don't love those songs or the artists.
Let's be real, almost every song that chart in the TOP10 or even topping the charts doesn't have longevity, especially nowadays, and that's why Charts doesn't mean much. I mean, any song can top a chart for a week or even for a month, but why is that matter or makes a song or the artist better if after a month people will move on and don't care about it anymore?
I said this so many times. Charting, especially as a soloist in Kpop is not easy, it's basically nonexistent, unless you're IU, G-Dragon or Taeyeon. Everyone else is basically finished after a short period of success. That's why we shouldn't make assumptions based on digital numbers.
Not to mention, if you don't release music every year and promote yourself massively, you don't really have a chance. Sejeong charted pretty well in her early career, and Chungha has much better charting, only her latest album didn't chart in TOP100.
I don't get what she's waiting for
Display MoreAgain personal appreciation for the song, is subjective.
I very much enjoyed and still regularly listen to songs from "Door"
But objectively, doing well in music means charting well, that Sejeong hasn't.
That they are doing well otherwise, in other ways is a different topic.
Soloists need either group fandom or acting success, to reach greater market.
That's the reality.
Else their reach will be limited, and that's reflected by the charts.
Nothing about the quality of their music.
Agreed, but i'm curious..
Display MoreThis isn't just personal appreciation. I'm just saying how it is, 99% of artists, not just in Kpop can't chart. Both Chungha and Sejeong are loved and very popular. You know damn well that not every song can chart, but that doesn't mean people don't love those songs or the artists.
Let's be real, almost every song that chart in the TOP10 or even topping the charts doesn't have longevity, especially nowadays, and that's why Charts doesn't mean much. I mean, any song can top a chart for a week or even for a month, but why is that matter or makes a song or the artist better if after a month people will move on and don't care about it anymore?
I said this so many times. Charting, especially as a soloist in Kpop is not easy, it's basically nonexistent, unless you're IU, G-Dragon or Taeyeon. Everyone else is basically finished after a short period of success. That's why we shouldn't make assumptions based on digital numbers.
Not to mention, if you don't release music every year and promote yourself massively, you don't really have a chance. Sejeong charted pretty well in her early career, and Chungha has much better charting, only her latest album didn't chart in TOP100.
Thanks, I am aware of their pasts. The fact remains that their music isn't doing well now.
We should stop beating the same bush again and again.
You live in your own world, where only you subjective opinion matters.
I do too, but only for myself. Outside of that, I look to statistical data to quantify anything and for music, it is the charts.
You are never going to accept that. I am never giving that up.
Display MoreThanks, I am aware of their pasts. The fact remains that their music isn't doing well now.
We should stop beating the same bush again and again.
You live in your own world, where only you subjective opinion matters.
I do too, but only for myself. Outside of that, I look to statistical data to quantify anything and for music, it is the charts.
You are never going to accept that. I am never giving that up.
Sejeong didn't release a song since 2023, and Chungha was charting on TOP100 last year. So, you can't act as if people forget them. They're obviously not topping charts anymore, but they're not nugus.
It's not my opinion. This is a fact! Chart doesn't matter and it don't represent the whole industry. Especially when Koreans starting to use Youtube and Spotify more than any other Korean platforms. And like I said, 99% of Kpop Idol soloists are flopping on Charts after 2-5 years. That's why it's ridiculous to measure the success of an artist based on Charts.
Let's say if there are more than 3 Idol soloists other than IU, GD and Taeyeon who can top charts after many years, your argument could mean something, but when 99% of Kpop is flopping, there is zero reason to talk about Charts.
And it's not just Kpop, btw, because even in the West, most singers can't chart, but that doesn't mean people don't care about them. This obsession with Charts and Streaming has to stop.
I personally disagree with this, Eunbi is more popular than she ever was in IZ*One. She was the most anti'd member of the group when they were active. And with Chungha, Chungha would never have been able to do Spanish releases, or EDM collabs while under MNET and CJ&M. They would have halted that real quick. I would rather the artists be happier with more creative freedom than to brag about charting spots.
Sure Somi did not live up to expectations of her being the break out girl from Produce 101 and sometimes things do not go as planned but to act like all the soloists need to revert back to a group. Going back to being silenced and stiffled as nothing more than a girl filling a spot in a group, and no ability to show personality or originality is not a good thought process.
Edit: As many others said in this thread, the obsession with charts and charting, has to stop. If your only goal is to see people rise up the charts instead of good music, you are not a music fan you are a success fan.
Chungha would never have been able to do Spanish releases, or EDM collabs while under MNET and CJ&M. They would have halted that real quick. I would rather the artists be happier with more creative freedom than to brag about charting spots.
THIS!
In IOI and under that company, Chungha would never become one of the Mother of Kpop, and Sejeong would never have freedom to create art that she wants!
What Somi need to do is leave TBL as soon as she can, and sign with either More Vision like Chungha or even Jellyfish with Sejeong.
Display MoreSejeong didn't release a song since 2023, and Chungha was charting on TOP100 last year. So, you can't act as if people forget them. They're obviously not topping charts anymore, but they're not nugus.
It's not my opinion. This is a fact! Chart doesn't matter and it don't represent the whole industry. Especially when Koreans starting to use Youtube and Spotify more than any other Korean platforms. And like I said, 99% of Kpop Idol soloists are flopping on Charts after 2-5 years. That's why it's ridiculous to measure the success of an artist based on Charts.
Let's say if there are more than 3 Idol soloists other than IU, GD and Taeyeon who can top charts after many years, your argument could mean something, but when 99% of Kpop is flopping, there is zero reason to talk about Charts.
And it's not just Kpop, btw, because even in the West, most singers can't chart, but that doesn't mean people don't care about them. This obsession with Charts and Streaming has to stop.
I didn't not say "flopping", don't put words in my mouth.
Sure there are multiple ways to earn and measure other than charts, I agree YT data missing is a huge for charts.
Nevertheless of the available metrics they are the least unreliable to assess the reach of an artist in the market.
If you have a better metric, other than "Trust me bro", so share.
To study any field or industry, numbers are a necessity and for Kpop charts provide that.
Of course it is not needed to appreciate art.
You don't want to use charts, then don't.
But I reject you gratituous hectoring.
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