Posts by YourDeadLover

    It was so cringe to watch tbh.


    Goes to show how even a group like KioF, who'd you expect to be a bit more informed on black culture than other groups with no american members, is still very much out of touch with the very culture their group's entire discography is inspired and based of.


    In a way i'm glad this happened as this is an issue that is lowkey swept under the rug in the industry. A general lack of respect and sort of mockery of hip hop culture and rap while also benefiting from it.


    People make mistakes and while I think this was a pretty pointless one to make, I hope they've learned their lesson. I'm saying this about not only the members but to all the label people that had to OK the livestream before it happened.

    A combination of a lot of conflicting interests and natural human errors i'd say.


    For the most part I don't think they mean to sabotage their own idols, especially if the groups are profitable or promising it's just that it takes so many people to run the massive behind the scenes engine for those groups that just one stretch of unfortunate events could create intense internal chaos, frustration, loss of trust and that can evolve into a massive loss of relevancy/support for the groups and in some cases even disbandment.


    *phew that was a long ass sentence, myb lol

    Sending this to my nearest Kpop journalist for an in depth conspiracy theory documentary. ty :finger-heart:

    Agreed, but i'm curious..


    How do you think she's supposed to "reform" IOI? lol

    SM has always hit the nail on the head with ggs throughout generations. This time tho they failed , quite miserably so. They don't have the top tier visual THE visual. The concept is newjeanaesque so yeah nothing new. I can't hear any outstanding vocals and didn't witness any outstanding dancing talent either. Just why did these mundane girls have to debut?

    To be honest I had not listened to anything H2H until i've seen this thread.


    I decided to give em a try and honestly i'm a bit surprised.


    Describing their concept as newjean-esque is kinda true but I don't agree that it's "nothing new". I mean at this point every concept is inspired by another concept that already exists lol as long as it's not a complete rip off I don't really see the issue.


    I don't think it's ever really been about who is the MOST talented in this industry as much as it is about who has the better label. There's a ridiculous amount of nugus out there that will NEVER make it because of the lack of funding/support not because of a lack of talent.


    As soon as they reach a certain beauty standard and level of dancing & performance proficiency it seems like the MASSIVE behind the scene teams are mainly what make the difference.


    Labels seem to be aiming for "good enough" nowadays and not "the best" which is a bit sad , so I get what you're saying. Nobody really stands out but they're good enough and the music sounds really GOOD in my opinion.


    Especially their debut "The Chase" I love the dark 808 pattern that plays in the back mixed with the ethereal melody and vocal harmonies. It's a nice mix of light & dark vibes for the song which makes it pretty unique.


    Butterflies sounds much much safer and jazzy. Definitely felt like i've heard this song before but it's soothing and well executed, no awkward rap parts or weird beat switches. Just a very vibey and calm jazzy track.


    TLDR: They're not that basic & the music is a bit safe but NOT boring. Give em a chance SeulgisAbs

    I agree with you an eerie/horror concept for the song would've been dope but I dont think it really takes away from how good it sounds.


    Magnetic is a banger, which understandably would be hard to top but Cherish is one the the strongest releases lately imo.


    It sounds darker than Magnetic so its a nice contrast and the way the song was executed by the producers & mixing engineers is SO auditorily pleasing. From the unorthodox and interesting chord progression, to the bouncy but chill drums to the way ILLIT's vocals complement it. I could keep on glazing but you get the point.


    I dont pay much attention to the lyrics i'm gonna be honest. Usually I cringe to hard when I do so I avoid doing that.

    I mean, technically they should but the fans can’t handle it.


    At least early on into their career it’s a disaster. After a while the fans relax a bit but it’s also very selective.


    That’s what i’ve noticed: it seems like fans didn’t really care about/approved of Momo + Heechul, Chaeyoung + ZionT, Jihyo + the olympic guy, Hyuna + Edawn but they went ballistic about Taeyeon + Baekhyun and Karina + Jaewook.


    Some idols get a pass , others don’t but I digress.


    To protect their career: Hidden

    In a perfect world: Public or Hidden (whatever the f they wanna do lol)

    Because it’s harder to make it as an asian artist in America. Focusing on building a strong almost cult-like following in Asia then transitioning to America will almost always be the way to mainstream success for K-Pop artists.


    Kpop labels are actually amazing in terms of giving visibility and creating a brand for the idols. Foreign idols are not a visible minority for the most part, which makes it way easier for them to blend in and reach success.


    You can be a nobody from Noman’s land but as long as you’re young, look good and look asian you can luck out and get chosen to be part of YG’s next group.Assuming there’s no mismanagement on the label’s part, you’re almost guaranteed a chance at a solo career at some point.


    Kpop fans are more rabid and support harder.American fans tend to support you when you’re viral then move on to the next viral thing rather quickly.


    So in my opinion it’s safer to go and take a chance in the Korean pop industry which has gone global at this point to then after try and forge their own path in America with all their Kpop clout.