Has 5th Gen’s Big 3 already been decided?
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Kiof erasure for what???....
Kiof can’t even hit 200k sales for a comeback
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But they can have hits while coming from a nugu company
And their highest peak on melon is?
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And their highest peak on melon is?
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also i think Meovv is kinda the underdog who will completely messed up this ranking soon
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Hmm it looks like their songs are known but the group not so much. Plus they don’t have as many album sales so that bumps them
out of the big 3
It's actually peak 3 and give them time, they didn't come from a big company whose stans stanned them pre debut.
But Natty was in the top10 most searched female idol in SK on Naver so not totally unknown.
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Watch as a nugu group comes in to dominate out of nowhere
.To add, I don't believe sales and possibly charts are a valid way to measure who the top group is. There are too many confounding variables. Furthermore, it's extremely bias (and results will most likely lean to big companies).
If we strip everyone down and adjust so that they're all on the starting line (no big company privilege, same amount of marketing, etc)--then KIOF would be on top imo. No way to tell for sure though.
Thus, a better ranking would be: who has the better company/management/company influence.
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Too early
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I am ready for the 6th Generation to start.
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There's never any guarantee that there'll be a big 3 at all, 4th gen didn't have one, you had at least 4 groups within whom the top 3 changed from comeback to comeback. Maybe the proposed groups can muscle out Kiss of Life with album sales even though their songs might die on the vine like Nmixx but if Hybe is debuting at least two more girl groups this gen there's zero reason that gives us a consistent big 3.
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should i make a rookie of the year thread now?
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LE SSERAFIM surpasses IVE and AESPA on an international level, so how does that equate to "clearly"?
Right now, LE SSERAFIM is the most relevant girl group globally. If anything, the current top 5 consists of NJZ, LE SSERAFIM, AESPA, IVE, and (G)I-DLE. However, LE SSERAFIM is likely to overtake NJZ soon, especially since NJZ no longer benefits from the support of HYBE stans. If you can't see that they're leading, you're simply not paying attention.
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With how fraudulent KAKAO and their charts have become, along with the Hanteo mess, any achievements based on K-charts or Hanteo sales should be completely disregarded when discussing who's truly leading. Their blatant manipulation in Thailand, Japan, and now even US streaming platforms is so obvious and downright disgusting to witness.
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Exactly! The way they're blatantly rigging everything for their current and new groups is so obvious and disgusting to see. Do they really think we wouldn’t notice? It's getting ridiculous at this point. Anything tied to KAKAO should be completely removed from any discussion. Their manipulation is so blatant that it’s not even worth considering.
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LE SSERAFIM surpasses IVE and AESPA on an international level, so how does that equate to "clearly"?
Right now, LE SSERAFIM is the most relevant girl group globally. If anything, the current top 5 consists of NJZ, LE SSERAFIM, AESPA, IVE, and (G)I-DLE. However, LE SSERAFIM is likely to overtake NJZ soon, especially since NJZ no longer benefits from the support of HYBE stans. If you can't see that they're leading, you're simply not paying attention.
Nice creative writing.
LSF is nowhere close to the accomplishments of NJZ/IVE/aespa
Please do your own research before accusing someone of not paying attention. I'm too busy to do it for you.
Yes, those are the 5 biggest girl groups overall, but the Big 3 are absolutely NJZ/IVE/aespa, who collectively own 99% of the records for 4th generation.
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Nice creative writing.
LSF is nowhere close to the accomplishments of NJZ/IVE/aespa
Please do your own research before accusing someone of not paying attention. I'm too busy to do it for you.
Yes, those are the 5 biggest girl groups overall, but the Big 3 are absolutely NJZ/IVE/aespa, who collectively own 99% of the records for 4th generation.
So all of LE SSERAFIM's Spotify streams, Japan + US sales, Hot 100 entries, Billboard records, and international awards—things that IVE and AESPA haven’t achieved or can't compares to LSF—mean nothing to you? Or does only K-charts and Hanteo sales matter in your argument?
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its too early yet.. but i totally see with KiiiKiii and H2H tho
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Babymonster is #1 and that's all I know.
Other groups can battle it out for 2 and 3 as long as babymonster remains #1, and they will. These other groups have little tidbits of success on melon, meanwhile babymonster owns every other platform by a mile and are now touring monsters as well. Many saying its among the best kpop concerts they've ever been to. They will always be #1.
Also Kiiikiii gonna be the next IVE.
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With all my respect i'm sure much more groups would be able to achieve great achievements on Billboard if all groups would start to do like HYBE do
and start to sell 1.99 dollar single of the album and available for US customer only to push the number of the single on billboard
But i guess you missed this small little detail when you were accusing all the other gg like ive or aespa for "payola"
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So all of LE SSERAFIM's Spotify streams, Japan + US sales, Hot 100 entries, Billboard records, and international awards—things that IVE and AESPA haven’t achieved or can't compares to LSF
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I agree it’s too soon but I haven’t seen this hype about a specific idol since Karina!
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