Even at my peak hardcore MooMoo lifestyle, I could not be bothered to deal with the annoyances of trying to vote for these music shows, and I ain't afraid to admit it

This is normal gg behavior btw, many gg stans sucking at voting but buy albums for the pics

Ggs having a big voting fandom its more of a singular case

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K-netizens don’t understand why ILLIT sells so many albums but their fans don’t vote

What I really don’t understand about ILLIT

Even though 380,000 copies of their debut album were sold in the first week, their votes on M Countdown were strangely low….. What is it really?

[+125, -5]

1. [+66, -5] That’s HYBEㅋㅋㅋ

2. [+50, -1] HYBE always makes people suspicious

3. [+44, -2] Nothing surprising anymoreㅋㅋㅋㅋ…

4. [+41, -1] Just look at global Spotify figures, they have a lot of overseas fans, but I don’t understand why even 10% of them don’t vote

5. [+14, -0] Looking at the number of views and comments on the MV, they don’t have foreign fans..

6. [+13, -0] Isn’t it true that only core fans buy albums?ㅋ Why don’t they vote?

7. [+12, -0] I wonder if they are popular in Korea or not, and Melon’s Weekly Popularity Award went to Baby Monsterㅋㅋㅋ Where are their fans?

8. [+9, -2] If you watch their live encore stage, even if you’re a fan, I don’t think you’ll want to vote…

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bec many hybe stans buy their albums. if only 1% of all those multi stans within hybe buy at least 1 album then it makes sense. but voting is another level, only loyal fans will vote . even multi's dont vote . i think in general debuting in hybe means selling at least 400 k units or more esp if the song is a hit

I stopped voting for anything years ago because they always make you download an app and earn points or something. I think fans are kinda tired of it maybe?

Ok. Well, let's see what happened after 1st week.

BM sold only 18k+ copies (10 days after 1st week)

ILLIT sold 100k+ copies (15 days after 1st week)

Some people like ILLIT music, but not everyone wants vote (different time zones, don't have time, some people are just lazy and this is normal).

Wait how did Rescene sell 34k in one week????? Were they a much anticipated group?

The group just debuted. Their survival audition show wasn't popular, so they lacked a fanbase pre-debut. Over time they'll build up a fanbase. Their next comeback will do better voting wise as their fans have grown and will be better coordinated in voting.

Doesn't it go both ways?if Illicit has lazy voters. Sheesh would also have lazy voters. It's just fandom gap.if multis are voting then they are picking baby monster.

Maybe they have more casual listeners than dedicated fans, maybe its Maybelline

Their voting ranking doesn’t mean their sales are fraudulent

Buying an album isn’t as tedious and confusing as voting. Only those who are dedicated will go through downloading an app, collecting tickets/hearts/stars and watch ads…

This is common for most ggs. Especially since they are new. They’ll build a bigger fanbase with time.

Baemon have mostly southeast asian fans specifically thai, indo, and ph fans that are monster voters that is why they also have high views on yt while ILLIT on the other hand don't really have much of a solid fanbase atm... their fans are mostly multis or from cn/jp that bulk buy albums but don't really care much about votings, while some are just lazy voters (the die-hard voters on R U Next are mostly Jiwoo and Chanelle fans).

The user above said it all they have more casual fans than dedicated fans. Casual fans can buy albums if they love the tracks, but they aren't dedicated enough to download apps and watch ads or collect hearts/stars everyday to vote.

Moreover, ILLIT doesn't even have a fandom name yet, so they still have more time to grow they are just starting.

Sajaegi

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Doesn't it go both ways?if Illicit has lazy voters. Sheesh would also have lazy voters. It's just fandom gap.if multis are voting then they are picking baby monster.

You started making your fandom in early 2023 with 'Last Evaluation'. Jennie and Lisa mentored BM. Of course, this situation added more Jennie and Lisa fans to join in the new BM fandom. 2023 debut + Batter Up + more fans in your fandom.

What about ILLIT. The unpopular show, 2 most popular girls didn't choose, - 1 member, only Minji speaks a little bit on English.

ILLIT debuted 25 days ago, and fandom started to build at the same time.

But you know, I think all ILLIT fandom say "thanks" to you guys. Because you more promote ILLIT, than Hybe.

And what do you mean by "Illicit"?

Hybe can't vote ofc

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You started making your fandom in early 2023 with 'Last Evaluation'. Jennie and Lisa mentored BM. Of course, this situation added more Jennie and Lisa fans to join in the new BM fandom. 2023 debut + Batter Up + more fans in your fandom.

What about ILLIT. The unpopular show, 2 most popular girls didn't choose, - 1 member, only Minji speaks a little bit on English.

ILLIT debuted 25 days ago, and fandom started to build at the same time.

But you know, I think all ILLIT fandom say "thanks" to you guys. Because you more promote ILLIT, than Hybe.

And what do you mean by "Illicit"?

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Don't know anything about what you just mentioned.

Looking at the numbers they seem have bigger fandom. That's it

In the future that could change.right now no

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Hybe can't vote ofc

I didn't say about vote in my last sentence, I talked about the promotion.

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Don't know anything about what you just mentioned.

Looking at the numbers they seem have bigger fandom. That's it

In the future that could change.right now no

Numbers? This ILLIT fans who love listening to their music and bought their album. ILLIT has 4 wins now. Maybe INKIGAYO next.

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Numbers? This ILLIT fans who love listening to their music and bought their album. ILLIT has 4 wins now. Maybe INKIGAYO next.

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Do you want to see real "vote power"? 8.4 and 4 million vote

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Do you want to see real "vote power"? 8.4 and 4 million vote

Wow! The power

i mean illit can win based on other metrics so maybe their fans don't feel desperate enough to vote

Illit won big time already (without voting) by debuting within BB top 100. That means they've got many casual American fans who couldn't be bothered to vote for a music show on a different time zone.

(Of course, antis will say it's payola)

I think it is simple

at the moment they have more casual who buy their album rather than voting.

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I didn't say about vote in my last sentence, I talked about the promotion.

I wasn't quoting you tho

An interesting fact: in the first 24 hours, their new video on YouTube had 9.8 million views, only 140k likes (in fact, there were 100k likes in the first 24 hours) and only 6k comments. Why so few? They are discussed everywhere, the brand's reputation is number 1, records in Spotify, Apple, Melon, but people are not interested in them. Hybeyola in action.

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Do you want to see real "vote power"? 8.4 and 4 million vote

So illit's fandom is bigger than Jungkook's?

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An interesting fact: in the first 24 hours, their new video on YouTube had 9.8 million views, only 140k likes (in fact, there were 100k likes in the first 24 hours) and only 6k comments. Why so few? They are discussed everywhere, the brand's reputation is number 1, records in Spotify, Apple, Melon, but people are not interested in them. Hybeyola in action.

H.P. , of course

Also, cheers to Illit's BBHot 100 debut although I wonder how Hybe payolaed their way there.

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So illit's fandom is bigger than Jungkook's?

JK's Fandom, like myself tbh, can't be bothered to vote but we do stream a LOT though.

Illit Hits The Hot 100 For The First Time And Makes History

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Hybe bought Forbes

Guys say the word

PAYOLA

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JK's Fandom, like myself tbh, can't be bothered to vote but we do stream a LOT though.

3 of his songs are still charting on Spotify global chart and each songs have already 200 days and more.

The fandom only vote when there's a chance to win so that we can focus on voting for other nominations while streaming as well.

Sheesh - 47.3%, Batter up - 46.0%, SITM - 23.0% real views.

YG used ads for Performance video too.

Yeah "We are HYBE payola"

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Sheesh - 47.3%, Batter up - 46.0%, SITM - 23.0% real views.

YG used ads for Performance video too.

Yeah "We are HYBE payola"

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That's why they're called adsmonster at least their fans have something to brag about though

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H.P. , of course

Also, cheers to Illit's BBHot 100 debut although I wonder how Hybe payolaed their way there.

I'll tell you a secret, just don't tell it to anyone, okay? BB charts are based primarily on Spotify metrics. Fifty-fifty also showed excellent BB performance based on streaming. And when hybeyola streams a farm track, it’s obvious that they will get into these charts, because that’s what hybeyola is needed for, to get into such charts without fandoms.

True, in the end, no one watches the content with them and no one cares about them, but in stores and retail outlets the track plays 24/7, I wouldn’t even be surprised if it plays in every Hybe branch all day long. .